great idea! getting list of brisky and gliderchow soon...sorry...busy...my boss just doesnt get it that I want to stay home with gliders and still get paid

Astronoc - I haven't been able to find the Glide-R-Chow ingredients yet, but I have a few feelers out to see if I can get my hands on it again.

What about Glider Grub too? Isn't that another one from a mill breeder?

Misty

Oh yeah....& as far as a book goes. I know this is a little off-topic, but it does go along with collecting all of this pellet diet info. I would LOVE to make a book but first & foremost, I'd like to get as much info up on my website as I can. I created my website to help educate people & compile info for people to make it easy to find. I want to get as much info as I can there & offer it to people for free. My vision would be to make a book afterwards that would be more like an offline reference manual....basically containing most of the more important knowledge from the website. breeders could give or sell it to people when they adopt their joeys. It'd be available for people who maybe aren't online or don't want to navigate through a website. I welcome help from anyone who wants to aid me in collecting the info to post on my website. So far, I mostly have diet info but do plan to expand and have over 100 ideas for pages to create on there....and not enough time in the day. Getting this info compiled on the pellet foods is a great first step.

Misty

Glider Grub added to list. I didnt get anything done on this project today but will work on it tomorrow.

Ok here's the "Glider Grub" (am waiting for Brisky's to email me as I threw out the label)

ALSO....we might want to add a list of catfoods that people use...with ca:p ratios included. I have been in contact with a few companies and some are great about revealing ratios and some are not (so I will not use those)I will only use ones that have a positive ratio. keeping in mind that catfood should NOT be used as a staple diet! just a treat.

Glider Grub:
dehulled soybean meal,corn flour, wheat middlings, fructose, casein, dried whole eggs, wheat germ, ground wheat, animal fat,preserved BHA, fried whey, corn gluten meal, soybean oil, dried beet pulp, calcium carbonate, brewers yeast, wheat bran, dehydrated alfalfa meal, sodium hexametaphosphate, fish meal, salt, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate, orange flavoring, folic acid, taurine, pyridoxine hydrochloride, cholecalciferol, menadoine dimethylpyrimidinol bisulfite, d-alpha tocopheryl acetate, choline chloride, iron polysaccharide complex, calcium pantothenate, dl-methionine, vit A acetate, biotin, thiamine monoitrate, cyanocobalamin, riboflavin, nicotinic acid, cobalt polysaccharide complex, copper polysaccharide complex, manganese polysaccharide complex, zinc polysaccharide complex, ethylenediamine dihydrodide sodium selenite.

guaranteed analysis
protein min 22%
fat min 9%
fiber max 4%

according to one person who distributes this, he claims it is the Mazuri New World Primate food repackaged. He was unable to provide a calcium:phosphorus ratio . SO I contacted Mazuri and
tried to get a calcium:phosphorus ratio from them, but they never answered my numerous emails.

feeding instruction: keep in cage as free choice at all times, replacing as needed if soiled.

Brisky"'s list is coming....

Thank you, Jill! It is the same as Mazuri and its on the spreadsheet.

I havent been feeling good so I havent been working on this full force. I'll start back up again in a couple of days.

Just wanted to give everyone a status and make sure ya'll knew i hadnt forgotten.

Ok, first can someone clarify, at the beginning of these ingredients it says 'soybean'. If Soy is toxic to gliders, is soybean different?? If it is, how differnt is it that it's safe to feed the suggie with this ingredient in it??

On the diet Chapters, there are some specific fruits and veggis to feed with them and should be listed in those chapters for those who don't know or are nebie glider ownders. Just a though.

I know that some glider owners stay away from pellets or food with soybean meal. I dont have any experience with that particular ingredient to say either way.

The cool part about gathering these diets is that we will be able to ask those questions across multiple diets since this is not the only one that carries said ingrendient.

This can be one of those points where we'll have to note people's opinion

Soy isn't toxic to gliders. Soy is a component of Wombaroo HPS (that is used in the HPW diet) and people, including myself have fed tofu. It just isn't something that should be given in large quantities - as with everything, moderation is the key.

Thankyou Gretchen. I misunderstood it then under the explanation of the 'Dangers of Onion, Garlic, Lima Bean & Soy' thread. I don't feed anything extra that has soy in it so no worries here then.

Are you still looking for the Glide-R-Chow from (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets ingredients? I may still have a label. Let me know.

Janine

Yes, please!

Still need:
Exotic Nutrition Baby Premium Sugar Glider diet - Need feeding instructions only
Glide - R - Chow
Glider Complete
Mazuri Omnivore Zoo-Feed
SUGAR GLIDER ~ Brisky diets

I'll post it later this evening. It may take a litle time to type it all out, it's a LOOONG ingredient list.

Janine

Hey guys...sorry, I've been sooooo busy lately! My friend who has the Glide-R-Grub is apparently out of town until Monday. Janine, if you can get the ingredients sooner, please feel free to do so.

Misty

still waiting for the brisky list to be emailed to me

Ok, here's the ingredients for (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets Glide-r'-chow:

Dehulled soybean meal,corn flour,wheat middlings,fructose,casein,dried whole egg,wheat germ,ground wheat,animal fat,preserved BHA,fried whey,corn gluten meal,soybean oil,dried beet pulp,calcium carbonate,brewers dried yeast,wheat bran,dehydrated alfalfa meal,sodium hexametaphosphate,fish meal,salt,L-ascorbyl-2-phosphate,orange flavoring,folic acid,taurine,pyridoxine hydrochloride,cholecaciferol,menadoinedimethylpyrimidinol bisulfate,D-alpha tocopheryl acetate,choline chloride,iron polysaccharide complex,calcium pantothenate,DL-methionine,vitamin A acetate,biotin,thiamine mononitrate,cyanocobalamin,riboflavin,nicotine acid,cobalt polysaccharide complex,copper polysaccharide complex,manganese polysaccharide complex,zinc polysaccharide complex,ethelenediamine dihydroxide sodium selenite** The End

(OMG, this took 10 minutes to type out with these long words and really small print on the label, lol)

Guaranteed Analysis:
Specialized protein 22%
Specialized fat 9%
Specialized fiber 4%

Hope this helps.

Janine

Thanks Janine.

I haven't had time to work on the formatting of this spreadsheet yet. Astronoc, let me know when you have all of the data together & we can work out how we want to compile it.

Misty

Janine - Do you happen to have the feeding instructions as well? Thank you for the rest!

mmmmm.... What on earth is "specialized" protein, fat and fiber? I think (PPP) Perfect Pocket Pets sure wants to make their junk food sound "special" for gliders.

Janine - will your spread sheet include any nutritional analysis - such as mg amts for calcium, phosphorus, protein etc in a uniform amount of each pellet food? Generally if these nutrients can be given in mg per 100 grams of the food then it helps to compare the foods.

Just a list of ingredients without mg amounts per volume for each ingredient will not give much to compare.

Update:

I am missing feeding instructions on two items but the rest are completed. If you dont see a pellet diet on this list, please let me know but I think we got most of them.

Misty - Please see your email for updated spreadsheet.

*(Still missing Feeding Instructions) Exotic Nutrition Baby Premium Sugar Glider diet
*(Still missing Feeding Instructions) Glide-R-Chow

Completed:
Exotic Nutrition Berries & Bugs Glider diet
Exotic Nutrition Glider Complete
Exotic Nutrition INSECT-EATER diet
Exotic Nutrition Insectivore-Fare
Exotic Nutrition Monke Biscuits Orange Flavor
Exotic Nutrition Monkey Biscuits Standard
Exotic Nutrition New World Primate diet
Exotic Nutrition Premium Sugar Glider diet
Exotic Nutrition Sugar Glider diet with Eucalyptus
Exotic Nutrition Sugar Glider diet with Papaya
Glider Complete
Glider Grub
Mazuri New World Primate
Mazuri Omnivore Zoo-Feed
Pet Pro Happy Glider breeder
Pet Pro Happy Glider Chicken Protein
Pet Pro Happy Glider Fruity
Pet Pro Happy Glider Supreme
Pretty Pets Sugar Glider Food
SUGAR GLIDER ~ Brisky diets
Sunseed Vita Sugar Glider Formula
Zoo-Fare
ZooKeeper's Secret

Do you need the feeding directions? I work at Petsmart and we do sell that nasty Sunseed food, I can read the back for you.

We just need the Glide-R-Chow and Exotic Nutrition Baby Premium Sugar Glider diet feeding instructions I got the ingredients and guaranteed analysis for both of these but thats the only piece missing. I want what is exactly on the label so as not to be biased and maintain somewhat of a data standard.

Oh alrighty

Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can go about getting actual nutritional breakdown(milligrams of protein, calcium, etc per oz or per cup)?

I think we have to call the manufacturers for this part. Any volunteers? I cant carry this torch through the phone call portion of it but I am willing to stick around and help in other things or after that part is done

I can contact Exotic Nutrition to get the breakdown on their products, if they're willing. I agree with Candy. We need to ask for mg of each nutrient per 100g of the diet. That way we're all consistent. It may take some time to get all of this info.

I'll be able to make up some neat comparisons in Excel though, once we have it.

Misty

The only feeding instructions for Glide-R-Chow were to keep a dish 1/2 filled with the pellets. Once they looked gummy/chewed up, they should be replaced with fresh pellets.

Janine

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The only feeding instructions for Glide-R-Chow were to keep a dish 1/2 filled with the pellets. Once they looked gummy/chewed up, they should be replaced with fresh pellets.

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I will add "Keep dish 1/2 filled with the pellets. Once they looked gummy/chewed up, they should be replaced with fresh pellets" as the instructions for now. If anyone notices thats not the exact wording, please let me know so i can update.

I've used Glide-R-chow, pretty pets, and sunseed. Glide-r-chow mainly uses soy protein (which I personally don't feel comfortable feeding my gliders)so I stopped feeding it. Pretty pets smells awful and my gliders refused to eat it. Sunseed is pretty good. You need to supplement it with calcium (according to my vet) and fuits and veggies (according to the package). My vet also mentioned that her veterinary books recommend a diet of 50% insectavore pellets and 50% led beaters. I do not have much experience with these creatures so I can't say which is healthiest but in my minimal experience my gliders have loved Sunseed pellets. The petsmart in Fairfax, Va even carries Sunseed in their store which makes it much more convenient.

I think glide-r-chow has changed. The labe I have says 24% protein, 10% fat, 6% fiber, and 12% moisture. I just got my gliders about a month ago (... yes I know I am a horrible person for giving them my business).

I also want to mention beware any "consumer reports" sites that have un-clickable contact information and don't allow you to register to rate companies. One of them has information claiming that Glide-R-Chow and Glide-A-mins are the best things to feed but their information doesn't have any sources. It is mentioned in another thread somewhere.

I'm curious to know which is the best staple food for gliders. I hear insectivore-fare/zoo-keeper's secret is good, but want to make sure if there's something better or maybe more affordable before I purchase online.
i finished the sunseed one they sell at petsmart and other local pet stores.
any suggestions?