Have been following the progress & am sending my energy & thoughts your way also. :heart<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" />heart: Best o Luck with everything. It is so hard for you both but she is a very lucky girl to have you so dedicated to her well being.:heart<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" />hug2 Not all animals are so lucky.

Keep the positive thoughts/energy going!!

[:"blue"] Sundra, keepng you both in my prayers. Silly, Little Peeps, you better take your meds or all your Aunties will come hold you down AND Uncle Tom and Uncle Eddie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Now, you sure don't want that to happen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shakehead.gif" alt="" />

Take care of both of you and keep those updates coming. [/]

So happy to hear that Peepers is doing alot better! See prayers, love, and support "Miracles" We do believe! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/multi.gif" alt="" />

HAppy to hear he is better

hope she is doing better. Its good you are starting to get some sleep again.

Just read this thread and so sorry, please know you and your glider are in my thoughts and prayers. I am so sorry she is so sick and I know you are doing all you can.

She still seems to be on the mend. She just had her first fully formed stool. That's what I've been waiting to see. I was hoping for one this morning, but it was still loose then. However, she was definitely feeling better. She was like, "hyperglider" this morning.

She hasn't eaten much yet tonight, but she's been snacking in my bra a lot today. I still wish she'd drink more, but I guess the watermelon and cantaloup are watery enough.

I'll give her the message, Karen. She was still very difficult at med time tonight. If I tell her Uncle Eddie and Uncle Tom are gonna come along with ALL her aunties, maybe she'll shape up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shakehead.gif" alt="" />

The fruits you give her are liquid enough and that is keeping her hydrated thank goodness, you are doing great with her and that is what she needs, thank God she is doing better. She is going to need more nutrition though so feed mealies and veggies when she will eat them, my thoughts and prayers are with you and the wee one!!!

Yay Peepers, keep it up! But...how 'bout a good poop, eh?

Wow! This is great news! Everything happens for a reason. You were meant to be at the vet when you were, and they were meant to collect and analyze her samples, and properly diagnose and treat her condition. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> After two two-month stints of diarrhea myself, I can certainly relate to the excitement of seeing a normal bowel movement! Way to go Peepers! Her appetite and energy level should continue to improve. It's great she's grooming herself (and you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />), too! It's all good! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" />

Sending continued prayers and <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> your way. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Okay, Peeps seems to be out of the woods. She is grooming herself now as I type. Her stools are normal (I know where each one is in the cage and when it was produced, lol. I washed and disinfected the wheel today and used Clorox wipes on the rest of the cage and there are 2 new ones on the wheel and one on the bottom grate.) she's feeling fine, eating okay (I never have felt she eats enough) and is not dehydrated at all.

She's still on the Baytril and Metro twice a day. It worked when I told her that her aunties and uncles were going to come make her take her meds. It's been easier to get her to open her mouth for them. She said "Oh no! Not Eddie and Tom! Okay, I'll be good!" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />

I'm actually dreading when she's not on the meds. For now, I feel like she's protected being on them, but once she's off, I'm so worried she'll get sick again and I won't catch it quick enough. I just wish I knew how she keeps getting this stuff. I'm going to keep her on the meds as long as the vet thinks it's wise and I'm going to be diligent about cleaning the cage very frequently. The vet tech said a 10% bleach solution is the best thing to use to clean even pouches and stuff. I'll use that on the cage, but I hate to get all my pretty pouches faded. I'd rather soak them in alcohol or something, set them in the sun, wash them in hot water, whatever. I'll have to be sure to wear old clothes when I do the cage. I always seem to splash myself somewhere when I work with bleach.

So I've been told the most common way for animals to contract giardia (and I assume trichs are the same) is from water. But I thought that was just standing water, like when a dog drinks out of a puddle or something. I've been told other ways gliders can get it is if their fruit isn't washed properly. I used to buy my fruit already cut up, so it's possible the guy in the produce section of HEB didn't do his due diligence, so maybe they got it there the first time. But since the first time they got sick, I've been good about washing the fruit myself and not feeding anything that's too difficult to get clean (like blackberries, etc.) so I do'nt know if it's just been staying dormant in their systems or if they are getting it from something I'm not thinking of. Any ideas? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

I'm so glad that she's feeling better! I was so worried about all of you. As to the giardia I have no clue on that one. It's something I've never experienced...... Now if you had a question about her teeth I might be able to answer that one for you.

Grapefruit seed extract is pretty good for washing produce.

[:"green"]When we lived in Africa, we used to have to wash all of our produce in an iodine solution... I'll check with my mom on how much iodine we had to use & in how much water - it seems to me that it was only a few drops, but I don't remember how much water it was used in. I do know that this was a precaution to prevent contracting giardia - one of the higher health risks where we were living...

Wow!! So glad to hear that Peepers is on her way to recovery now!!

Sundra please let us know what we can do....

So glad to hear the Peepers is doing so much better! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yelclap.gif" alt="" />

And Sundra, I had the same fear after my gliders finished all their meds for giardia. I kept wondering What if isn't not all gone? What if it comes back? What if I don't catch it in time? What if they're not strong enought to fight it next time? What did I miss the first time that let them catch it? That was a big one for me because I thought I was doing a lot to make sure they didn't get it (used bottled water, washed fruit, chooped fruit, washed again, and froze the fruits, etc.) but they still did. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worried2.gif" alt="" />

All I can say is that as the pain of losing Jeepers and watching Peepers go through what she did lessens, so does the constant worry. I know I'll always be super careful, but I also accepted that I can't prevent everything from happening, I can only do the best I can.

Ok, enough of my rambling <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> LOL Just thrilled to hear Peepers is doing great! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Yay Peepers! Good job lil one (and Sundra too!) I have been thinking about little peepers everyday and i am thrilled that she is doing better. Great Job and keep us updated on how she is doing!
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[:"green"]I checked with my mom on the iodine solution... She said to put in just enough iodine that it makes the water look like weak tea.

Sundra - so glad Peepers is doing better... keep it up Peepers!!!!

Thank goodness she pulled through the worst part. She's one VERY lucky little baby to have YOU as her mommy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Remember, we are ALWAYS here for you!

It's amazing how these tiny critters can steal our hearts in such a huge way. I first posted on this site when my little Flo was ill. While nothing can relieve your worries, I hope all these prayers and good thoughts are helping you, Peepers and the rest of your family. It helped me so much just knowing that people cared and took the time to say so. Please keep us updated on Peepers.

Sundra, I am so glad to hear Peepers is getting better. If you need help with anything, let me know. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

I wish the best for you and your little Peepers!!

Sundra, it's possible it's been dormant and recurring. That's why I suggested the longer course of meds. If it is, and becoming resistant...you NEED to keep her on the Metro until ALL CHANCE of reinfection is gone. 3 weeks minimum. And don't stop disinfecting her cage/pouch(es)/toys before then.

Loads of hugs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" /> and I'm glad to hear of improvement.

I talked to the vet today and he said the culture and sensitivity grew klebsiella bacteria, and he seems to think that's more the cause of her problems than the trichomonads. I don't quite understand why he believes that given that he said her fecal had SO many trichs, but he's the doctor. He said the kleb was sensitive to Baytril, so we have her on the right stuff.

I forgot to ask how long to keep her on the meds. He originally said 8 days, but I'm with you Jen, and I'm not sure that's long enough. However, I do worry about keeping her on them too long due to possible problems with liver or something.

I just spent the past 3 1/2 hours totally sanitizing everything I have for gliders and my African Grey too (it occurred to me that he could catch this too). I took the cages outside and washed them then sprayed with 10% bleach and rinsed really well (did the bleach twice). Then I also soaked every glider toy and dish I have in 10% bleach solution and ran all my pouches through the wash on hot. We are GOING to kick this stuff outa here!

Yay for bleach & hot water - Good job Mama-Bear! I would have to agree about the Baytril. 8 days seems pretty short, however, I wouldn't just continue it without consulting him. Perhaps he'll have you continue the Baytril for the full 8 days, then switch antibiotics - who knows, you docs are all loons! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />

Whew~~~ SOOOO glad to see that Peepers is on the right track now. I had no doubts though with a Mommy like you. She is in very very good hands right now and no doubt in my mind that she is just sucking up all this extra attention.
Keep us posted. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hug2.gif" alt="" />

after shes done with the meds have another culture and sensitivity done to make sure the bacterias are all gone.

Please be sure to keep us updated. We've been so worried <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Hey, Sundra...hoping Peepers is still on the mend! (Also, is she still on the meds?) Haven't seen an update for a bit.