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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: ] #641652
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Awww, Gina, I am sorry. You did not start him. You loved him and were trying to help him. He knows that, as do we. Cancer is called 'The Beast' for very good reason. It seems to follow no rules and can change direction at any time.
'She said that he was otherwise a perfectly healthy little boy'......he was that way BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR LOVING CARE. Please remember that!

I am sorry tonight brought all your intense pain back. I know it won't take it all away, but go love on Sekwaf, tell him all about his namesake. Remember all the GOOD MEMORIES, relive them, it will help you to heal. Yes, you will cry, but the tears will be rimmed with the pure joy you felt when those memories were created.

You are in my prayers, my friend.

Thank you for sharing that, I know that was not easy.


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: pappy1264] #641679
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Gina, you did the best and then some for Fawkes. No one could have known exactly where the cancer was growing. In these cases, most of the therapy is given with hopes that it is targeting the critical areas involved.
Please Gina, let go of thinking this. Today was probably the hardest, but now that the results have shown in Fawkes case, it is one of the most difficult cancers to treat.
Bless you Gina for loving him, and caring for him the way that you did.
God Bless you Fawkes, we all love and miss you. hug2

Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: pappy1264] #641683
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I just opened the box they gave me so I could transfer his ashes to the silver cremation pendant I bought for him & there's FUR in the box! What were they thinking?????????

And there are like 3 times as many ashes as there are supposed to be - is this even Fawkes?

I'm so upset I can't stop shaking!!!!!!!!

Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: ] #641713
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OMG monster now I don't want to open mine! I haven't been able to yet maybe I should keep it that way. There is just no reason for that type of thing to happen. I am sorry you had to see that at all.


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: cyndiekb] #641736
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I am so sorry. what are you going to do?


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: vagraphix] #641750
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Fur? I would call them, that is not right (unless you asked for some of his fur. I took some from my dog myself when he went to the bridge, but that is different.) I am so sorry.


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: pappy1264] #641770
09/22/08 09:49 PM
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I wish I hadn't opened it - I wouldn't have if I hadn't planned on putting him in the silver pendant. But now I have doubts that this is even Fawkes.

It was supposed to be less than a teaspoon of ash, and its at least a tablespoon, plus the fur. I don't want to call them. what are they going to do, look through the ashes, figure out which ones are really Fawkes' and straighten it out?

This is just horrifying, I haven't stopped bawling since I opened it.

Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: ] #641787
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Oh Gina, I am so sorry. Is there someone that can call for you and ask what is normal? I have only had one animal cremated, but there was more ash than what I expected or was told to expect. But if they made a mistake, they need to know so the same thing doesn't happen to someone else going through what you are.

I do understand about losing it when you go back into the room, I had that experience recently and didn't realize it would be so hard either. Fawkes's loss will creep up on you sometimes in ways and at times you don't expect. But it does get better and you will see him again. Someone told me recently that it's a sad twist that the people that love them so fiercely are the ones that feel their loss so strongly. hug2


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: ] #641788
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Gina -

this sounds awful and how terrible for you. But - if they did not heat/burn enough to burn all the fur, there will be more remains. cry

It is probably Fawkes - just a bad cremation. I am so sorry that this happened to you. It really bites. frown


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: ] #641859
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This is just not fair. You do not deserve any more pain from this whole heart breaking experience. My heart goes out to you.

I am so sorry....

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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: ozzi] #641867
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I am so very sorry Gina my friend cry .

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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: Karin] #641887
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Gina, your love for Fawkes is what matters. Thank you for posting the information about him, it must have been hard, but it is so important. hug2


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: USMom] #641965
09/23/08 02:06 AM
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Gina,
I don't even know what to say. I'm so sorry.
I wish I was there to give you a big hug. hug2


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: tngliderlover] #642085
09/23/08 10:47 AM
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I don't know why they did what they did - I can't fathom the thought process, or why they wouldn't ask me.

But I can't cry anymore, I don't have the strength or the tears left.

And the animals that are still with me need their Mommy back whole.

I have decided to have Linda make Fawkes a beautiful box to house all of his remains, as well as the engraved pendant I had made for him, and his duckie blankie.

Whats done is done, I need to let Fawkes be at peace.

Thank you everyone for all your support & hugs.

hug2

Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: ] #642106
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My vet called me - apparently my mom called her office & complained (since I was so upset).

Dr. Kate called me to explain. She said that she was responsible for the fur. She said that she used to ask clients before she did it, but that everyone always said yes, so she stopped asking. And that Fawkes was so small that the amount she took just happened to be most of his back. She apologized and said that she didn't mean to upset me - which I know is true.

She agreed that there was too much ash - she said that the crematorium probably didn't clean out the crematory well before they cremated Fawkes and I probably ended up with a couple grams of "other" ash.

Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: ] #642108
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Gina, Fawkes lives in your heart. His soul is entwined with yours and that can never be seperated. You both deserve some peace. I am sorry you have been through so much.


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: pappy1264] #642392
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AWwwww Gina I am so so so sorry you loved Fawkes and he knew that.

Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: ] #642560
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Aw, Gina, I'm so incredibly sorry that your ordeal has just continued to get worse cry cry cry Please know that you didn't starve Fawkes - his horrible cancer did that to him and he was fighting to live in spite of it because of his deep love for you mlove You loved him with your entire self and no more can be asked of a glider angel gangel
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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: sugarglidersuz] #643385
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Gina, hug2 I am so sorry for all that has continued to happen At least you have all your answers now. May your heart heal quickly and may you remember only the love. hug2


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Re: Fawkes' Necropsy Report & Histopathy is in... [Re: KattyM] #646429
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aw, sweetie, I haven't been able to get online-I'm so sorry. If it helps, think of the 'couple extra grams' as someone else's beloved pet(s) who they cared enough to cremate and keep too-that will keep Fawkes company when you're not there. I would have given ANYTHING for a piece even of BabyBoy-they wouldn't even let me have his tail I specifically asked for-though why they had to keep his tail to rabies test an animal that doesnt' get rabies is beyond me. hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2

The only experience I have with cremated remains are my grandfather's-I was the only one in the family at the time with the constitution, I guess, to deal with it. As I took them home from the funeral home, then to the Arlington Cemetery in Riverside, CA, all I could think was I was holding a man (the one who mostly raised me after my father died) who in life was over 6 feet tall and I couldn't ever have even picked up alive-in my hands. I know some wouldn't agree-but I think having some of his fur is something to treasure-he doesn't need it any more-he's got a perfect coat at the Bridge where he's playing now. One thought would be to have a pendant made of glass or clear plastic with some of the fur inside-and you'll always remember the exact color that he was. Just a thought for it. hug2


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