with the smoothies that I make... rather than adding honey or juice, I use melon to make it smoother.... since it contains more liquid, you can use just the fruits instead of adding the extra junk and throwing the BML diet off... I do add a little juice to the relish though... But all in all, its not enough to hurt much.

Just adding my two cents! I took those recipes to my vet on one of my visits, and she recommended that I not feed them to my gliders because of the extra honey, juice, etc. She said it was too much added sugar. So if you're going to feed them at all, I wouldn't recommend feeding them every night, but that's just me (well, and my vet of course!).

When I fed BML, I made treat cubes with the BML fruits and veggies. For the veggie mix, I just blended it with applesauce, but still left it a little chunky. The applesauce helped it freeze into a cube. My guys aren't that picky on the fruits, with the exception of melons. I just blended a few melons, applesauce can be added, and freeze.
I don't like the idea of all the extra honey, either. And if feeding the BML, you really shouldn't be adding all the extra stuff, anyway (yogurt, honey, or juice).

When I make the veggie cubes, I use mixed vegetables and add just a touch of V8. Just a touch, to help smooth it out. I don't want them to get too much of the tomato juice, so it ends up pretty diluted.

For the fruit cubes, I use a variety of fruits with a bit of apple juice.

I usually do this for when it's "just one of those days" or when I'm not home and my son has to do the feeding. It makes it easier on him.

That was kinda my thought on it, which is why i don't use any honey in either of the recipes....

For the smoothies, i just blend the fruits that are recommended for the BML. For the relish, I fill the blender about 3/4 full with veggies and one of the little 4 oz bottles of White Grape juice so that it makes the correct texture...

Well, I'm desperate! I'd risk throwing the BML diet off to get my guys to eat fruits and veggies. I mean, if all they are eating is the BML, that's not good for them either!

However, no such luck. So far, 3 nights of the fruit smoothie have been rejected by all cages. And last night, first night of veggie relish, it wasn't touched either.

I just don't know how to get them to eat something besides BML!

try feeding the fruits to them during the day as finger treats, then just offer the veggies and BML at night. they might do better like that....

All 11 of them don't eat fruits and veggies?

mine won't eat anything if i don't blend it with melon.... If i don't offer melon, they will leave the fruits there, If i offer melon, they will just eat that.... so i have to blend the melon with the other fruits to get them to eat them.

Ok great, thank you for the answers. The extra honey/yogurt was concerning me as the BML is meant to be a complete diet. I'll make the relish using applesauce and I have discovered that the fruit mix will be fine without anything at all because of the melon pieces and thier natural juices.

Thanks all =)

- Johnny Angel and his my-glider-eats-better-than-I-do human Dianne

... I AGREE!! I AGREE!!

............ I TOTALLY AGREE!!


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Here is My Update on How the Smoothie Feeding Went.

What can I say BUT that my SG LOVED IT!!!! They ate every single bite...... Yum! Yum!
... they are now getting their Fruits as well as their Vegetables. I am Happy....

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And while I understand that some ppl on here will not use the Smoothies or Relish in fear of it throwing the BML Ratio off............... (and I RESPECT your RIGHT to do so)
I myself would rather my two SG eat the Vegetable Relish one Night and then eat the Fruit Smoothies the Night after than NOT eat any vegetables or fruits what so ever.... and that is what happens more than not when you have a picky eater as a pet.

I will try using less Honey the next time I make the Relish & Smoothies, then see how it goes from there.

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P.S. - ValkyrieMome

How did YOU make the Relish & Smoothie? - what all did you put in it.

Tonight I tried making the fruit smoothie with no honey. I used baby food fruits to get the texture right - instead of the yogurt. I mixed the bag of mixed fruit with the baby food fruit. I hope they like it!

Jannie - I only have 5 gliders right now - the other 6 haven't come yet. And the 5 I have right now -- pretty much do NOT eat fruit, and only eat peas and corn for veggies.

Here is the Recipe I used..... try making it if the one you have does not work - my two loved it and they rarely eat their fruit.
... it filled two ice trays, thats a months worth (or more).


Fruit Smoothie:

1 - 32 oz bag of Mixed Fruit *
1 - 4 oz Gerber Fruit Juice w/ Yogurt
4 - TBSP of Honey
4 oz - Dannon Vanilla Yogurt


* I used Fresh Fruit I already had in the house from the BML diet.

Watermelon, Cantaloupe, Honey Dew, Apples, Cherries, Blueberries (and a few) Grapes.

Rhapsody- I buy bags of mixed veggies -- but for the relish, I stick to the BML veggies. I defrost the green beans and carrots, and then blend them up with a little bit of apple juice. I try to get it "relish" consistency, not liquid. Then I stir in peas and corn, and just zap it with the blender.

For the smoothie, same thing. Except, since I feed Judie's BML, I use a bit different fruits than the regular BML. But mostly, I stick to close to the same. Then, tonight, I mixed it with baby food fruit - I added babyfood mango and papaya, and pears and applesauce. Then mixed that. So far, no one is eating it, but I think they are still on the first batch of fruit I made, with the yogurt and juice.

Oh - My mixed fruit bag had peaches, 2 kinds of melon, pineapple, (either mango or papaya, I forget) strawberries and grapes. I took out all the grapes and some of the pineapple.
I added in some blueberries at the end.

Edit: oh, and I put in Cherries instead of the grapes.

Hmm - Maybe leave the Pineapple out.... for it seems more of a sour to me, therefore, it might throw the whole sweet thing off for the SG?


... The only differnce I can see in yours and mine - Is that I used vanilla yogurt & more berries / cherries.

Silly question, I was reading the safe fruits and veggies list (http://www.kryskritters.com/SafeFruitsVeggies.html) and I happened to notice that blueberries is not listed.

These are safe right!? I'm using them atm in his fruit smoothies as per the BML lists.

Yes blueberrys are VERY good for them!

This is why I always tell people if I am missing something to let me know... I am human and after you type out all that, I'm bound to miss even the simplest of fruits...

No such thing as a silly question! Especially when it comes to the heath & saftey or our babies

Thanks Krys! I was just making sure, still new at this being owned by a glider experience!

YES... they are SAFE and they are listed on the BML diet Page...... KK just missed this one, as her eyes probably started to go numb and fall alseep after typing all those other food names -


The BML LINK:

http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugargliders/bml/leadbeat.html

HOW DO YOU MAKE THE VEGETABLE RELISH????

This is one variation:

VEGETABLE RELISH:

1 - 32 ounce bag of mixed vegetables, defrosted (green beans, sweetcorn, carrots and peas)

4 - fluid ounces of white grape juice

4 - table spoons of honey

Put half of everything into blender and blend until consistency of relish,
do same with other half and mix together.
Freeze in ice cube trays and give 1 cube per glider.

This is another:

My Version of VEGETABLE RELISH:

1 - 32 oz mixed vegetables, defrosted (1 cup corn, 2 cup Peas, 1 cup cooked carrots)

1 - 4 oz Gerber Fruit Juice w/ Yogurt.
(w/ added Apple Juice 1/4 cup) - to help w/ thickness

4 - TBSP Honey

BUMP -

I am bumping this thread up for I have been reading a lot of post again concerning SG that will NOT eat their Fruit or Vegetables.... hoping this helps others as it has helped me and my gliders.

They clean their plate every night now - 1 ice cube feeds 2 SG.


.... you can adjust the amount of HONEY used in recipe - less can be done.

This is the only way I have been able to get my gliders to eat all their veggies, not just pick out the corn & peas. So 2 thumbs up from me too. I made the fruit smoothie too, but I just used a bag of mixed blackberries, strawberries, raspberries & blueberries, and I think its a little much on the berries. So my next mix will have a better variety.

I feed my gliders HPW diet, is there a variation of this relish I can use for my diet for the fruits AND veggies since they don't eat them at all? It needs to have the right Ca:Ph ratio with the HPW stuff I already feed them, any help?

Can you substitute apple jucie instead of white grape juice?
would it make a big difference?
I read this yesterday and went to Wally world today to get the stuff and I guess I didn't read to throughly because I got apple juice instead.

I've changed this around many times, and used many different substitutions.

I discovered my gliders like it best when I use my food processor not my blender. So everything is a tiny bit chunky. They also like it "drier", so I add less liquids. I vary the vegetables by using not only frozen veggies, but also vegetable baby food.

I now don't add the corn and peas when mixing, I stir them into the mix at the end so they are whole.

I personaly just cut down on the HONEY in the BML Mix - this way I can make the Relish & Smoothie with honey with out worries - it has worked for me for two months so far.

Yes you can....... I use baby Apple Juice with my Relish & Smoothie.