of course it is coated galvanized. The wire from Klubertanz is good.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" /> [:"magenta"]call me paranoid, but i wouldn't use galvanized wire even if it is coated. just my humble opinion.[/]

I think it a to be galvanized so they can't chew throught it. The wire is safe!

Charlesex, what type of cage do you have? What kind of wire is in it? Is it stainless steel? I'm curious about the other types of cages people use.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" /> [:"magenta"] i don't have my suggies yet, so it isn't an issue. when i get my cage, i plan to either buy it from www.kanddexoticpets.com or make my own out of pvc-coated hardware cloth. stainless steel may not be the best, but personally, i would use that before i would go with anything galvanized. maybe i am just overly cautious, but there you have it. [/]

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personally, i woud not use galvanized materials of any kind. i was considering making my own cage. i heard the klubertanz site came highly recommended, so i checked it out. but when i saw that the coated wire was galvanized, i said "no way." just my thoughts.

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i don't have my suggies yet, so it isn't an issue. when i get my cage, i plan to either buy it from www.kanddexoticpets.com or make my own out of pvc-coated hardware cloth. stainless steel may not be the best, but personally, i would use that before i would go with anything galvanized. maybe i am just overly cautious, but there you have it.


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Under the PVC coating, the hardware cloth is galvanized. Whether you get it from Klubertanz, K & D Exotics, or make your own, you'll have a cage made from the same thing. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> All 3 of those options are good choices, though. As long as it's made from the PVC coated hardware cloth and not just regular galvanized hardware cloth it should be safe. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumb.gif" alt="" />

Sugar Mama, you read my mind! I checked out their cages and they seem to be using the same wire I do.

I wonder if PVC coating is like powder coating: with powder coating, you can only use certain, magnetic metals. This is why you can't powder coat aluminum (not magnetic). BUT perhaps PVC bonds better to galvanized steel or something like that.

Is it vinyl coated and pvc the same. I'm confused? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" />

I built my own cage out of plastic coated wire shelving. I have since split it into 2 cages and slightly altered it though (I'll post pics once it's totally finished)... The original interior dimensions of the cage were 32 inches x 32 inches x 64 inches (38 cubic feet)... The new dimensions are (top): 28 inches x 32 inches x 36 inches and (bottom): 28 inches x 32 inches x 24 inches. I had to alter it because the drop pans didn't fit correctly and I wanted to split it into 2 cages...
The cost was:
13 pieces of close mesh wire shelving @ $12 a piece: $152
2 plastic washing machine mat things (I use them as drop pans) @ $20 each: $40
1 hack saw (w/extra blade): $6
300 super pet cage clips: $25

More of less I got 2 great cages for $225. I love my cages and they are exactly what I want. I don't know if I'll ever buy a cage again or not...

Oh, I forgot the vitals of a single cage...

Dimensions (exterior): 28 inches x 32 inches x 72 inches
Dimensions (interior): Varies... 28 inches x 32 inches x 68 inches (35 cubic feet)

Supplies:
11 pieces of wire shelving @ $12 each: $132
1 drop pan: $20
100 4 inch zip ties (cheeper...): $1
hack saw: $6

Total cost: $160

[:"magenta"] sorry if this is <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> , but i wanna know why nobody has thought to create a hard plastic cage? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> that sounds like the safest option![/]

What do you mean by hard plastic? Like hard plastic mesh or like Plexi-glass?
I've bought every type of plastic mesh I've been able to find over the last few months to see if that was actually an option and in all honesty, I waisted a lot of money. Gliders can chew threw a lot of it or it's just not up to my standards...
Now as far as plexi-glass goes, that would be equivalent to putting gliders in an aquarium... I've been trying to make a plexi-glass cage with removable mesh that attaches to the inside of it, but I haven't had much luck...

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" /> [:"magenta"]no, i know better than to put them in an aquarium type of thing. do you know those little plastic baskets they sell with handles? they come in different sizes/colors, and have holes in them, kinda like cage bars. the gliders could still climb. why couldn't somebody make a cage out of that? [/]

PVC and vinyl are the same thing, Tbone. PVC stands for PolyVinyl Chloride, which is the full chemical name for that type of vinyl. It allows for a relatively thick, quick drying, softer coating than powder coating.

PVC is not the same as powder coating. To powder coat something, you electrically, negatively charge a magnetic metal object. The paint chips/powder are positively charged, so when you spray down the metal, they are bonded electromagnetically as well as by the drying action of the powder spray. It takes a LOT to chip off a powder coating, which is why you will often see this type of coating on ATVs, mountain bikes, engine parts; anything that takes a lot of abuse. Powder coating is thinner but more durable than PVC. It takes several coats which require a day's worth of drying between applications. It is more expensive than PVC.

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" /> [:"magenta"]no, i know better than to put them in an aquarium type of thing. do you know those little plastic baskets they sell with handles? they come in different sizes/colors, and have holes in them, kinda like cage bars. the gliders could still climb. why couldn't somebody make a cage out of that? [/]

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I don't quite know what you're talking about. Could you possibly find a picture?

[:"magenta"]ugh, if only i had a digital camera! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" /> it is kinda hard to explain. but it is made out of hard plastic, sorta like those plastic easter eggs (but thicker.) [/]

A cage made out of plastic easter eggs...now wouldn't that be interesting...lol

Are you talking about the hard plastic type stuff that they sometimes use for like the latchhook rugs and or cross stitching type things? I think I have an idea of what you are talking about. That is hard plastic, and I am not sure if I would take the chances of using hard plastic in case they chewed and possibly ingested some.

Your best bet with a glider cage in my opinion would be the same thing that most use and that is the pvc coated mesh, or a rept.

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" /> [:"magenta"]alyssa, maybe i should have clarified that i meant the PLASTIC was like that which is used for easter eggs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" /> srlb, that is kinda what i am talking about. like what is used for plastic canvas (are you familiar with that?) i understand/respect your concern about chewing. however, many people give their gliders plastic toys, such as barrel of monkeys. if the plastic was made thicker, and therefore harder to chew, would that not make it safer? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> [/]

I'll tell ya. My gliders have chewed hands off of the barrel of monkeys and also their eggs, but never chewed on their PVC coated wire on their cages. The hard plastic just is not a good idea. The PVC coated wire is the best option available.

[:"magenta"]wow, those poor handless monkeys! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" /> i did not know about that. i am relieved to hear that they don't chew on the pvc coating in the cage, but why do you suppose they don't? are they just not attracted to the pvc? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> also, i have lots of plastic toys for my babies. is there a danger they could eat the plastic? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> or do they just chew on it? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nixweiss.gif" alt="" /> [/]

It IS a good idea, it just wouldn't work! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />