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Re: I think she is the most beautiful glider ever [Re: ] #24732
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I think she is too.

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Re: I think she is the most beautiful glider ever [Re: ] #24733
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Sheila, she is absolutely beautiful! I love her coloring. What a doll! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: I think she is the most beautiful glider ever [Re: ] #24734
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Sheila you know it is a good thing you are half way across the US from me! I would be camped out on you door step trying to get to see all your beautiful babies.....and that one would go missing on one such visit!


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Re: I think she is the most beautiful glider ever [Re: ] #24735
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Haley is growing so fast. I took some pictures of her this week and she is losing her "Little baby look"

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Re: I think she is the most beautiful glider ever [Re: ] #24736
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Here is another. She is as pretty as ever.

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Re: I think she is the most beautiful glider ever [Re: ] #24737
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omg!! that color is beautiful! Its almost like a slate blue. Hopefully she will have lots of pretty babies just like herself <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" /> GORGEOUS!!! You must be such a proud mom!

Re: I think she is the most beautiful glider ever [Re: ] #24739
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She is beautiful!


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Re: I think she is the most beautiful glider ever [Re: ] #24740
09/26/04 06:26 PM
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She is an Amazingly Beautiful glider!!!

Thanks for sharing your pics with us. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumb.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Been busy, but will have new pictures soon [Re: ] #24741
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I am speechless. Your glider is absolutely beautiful! I will bet that she has the personality to match her outer beauty, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />

Please keep us updated with photos,
Dorothy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dance.gif" alt="" />, Bandit <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" />, and Gypsy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Been busy, but will have new pictures soon [Re: ] #24742
09/27/04 02:50 PM
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Sheila.. time goes by too quickly! Yes.. she is simply gorgeous.. and isn't looking like a baby too much anymore. I still think she should be paired up with my little guy.. lol. Well.. She is just adorable. =) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Re: Been busy, but will have new pictures soon [Re: ] #24743
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I must say that she has really filled in with grey. She is very nice and I hope that this is the begining of a new line of these colored gliders because they are truly beautiful. She appears to be a platinum, I have not seen her in person so I cannot say what she is. If she is this is good news considering the only other platinum I know of outside of your breeding program, is not producing. Please keep us updated with lots and lots of pictures.

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Just a few corrections.... [Re: ] #24744
10/07/04 04:55 AM
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I'm not looking for trouble, but I have to make a few corrections to some of the information provided in this thread. It is important that everyone has the correct information.
1) There is no 25% het for anything. When a 100% heterozygous animal is bred to an animal that is exhibiting the trait that the heterozygous animal carries the recessive gene for (i.e.-100% het to leucisitic), 50% of what you will produce, on average, will be 100% or what is otherwise known as "guarenteed" hets. They will look like normal aka 'homozygous' animals, but they will be heterozygous for leucistic. The other 50% will exhibit the recessive leucistic trait, as if it is 'dominant' and not recessive.
When a 100% or guarenteed het is bred to another guarenteed het, 25% of what you will produce, on average, will be animals exhibiting the trait, and the other 75% will be normal or 'homozygous' in appearance but would be what is considered 66% possible hets. This is due to the fact that, on average, of the three out of the four that don't exhibit the recessive trait only two of them are hets and the other is a normal that does not exhibit, nor carry the gene. Two out of three is 66%. With most recessive traits, there is no way to tell which ones are and which ones aren't hets, until they are bred, hence the term "possible het".
When a guarenteed het is bred to a normal animal you will produce babies that are all normal in appearance, none exhibiting the recessive trait, and on average, 50% of them will be heterozygous and 50% of them will not. These are what, and should be, reffered to as 50% possible hets.
2) Leucisticism is a recessive trait. To my knowledge, there has yet to be a leucistic animal produced by normal looking animals that didn't prove to be carriers of the gene, or what is known as hets.
3) A co-dominant trait is not referred to as such because two traits are exhibited in the same animal. A trait is co-dominant when it is just as dominant genetically as the animals normal or homozygous phase. When an animal with a co-dominant trait is bred to a normal animal, 50% of the babies that you produce, on average, will exhibit the trait, as if it is dominant, which it is in a (co)operative sort of way, and 50% will be normal. Co-dominance is in reference to it being as dominant, not recessive, as the animals natural phase. There are no hets with co-dominant traits. Hets carry recessive traits. If an animal exhibits a co-dominant trait, it is capable of producing more like it. If it doesn't, it is not.
4) Variations are just, by definition, characteristic diversions from the norm. AKA variety
5) Leucisitics and albinos are both exhibiting a genetic 'mutation'. They are both exhibiting a recessive 'trait' that is a result of a not-so natural, but naturally occuring physical change in chromosome relations. They are not "damaged". They are just different.
6) Leucistics are solid white with black eyes. The yellow tint is from urine. It's very hard to keep them, or anything with solid white fur and a tendency to urinate everywhere, looking totally clean. I don't beleive that sugar gliders have any yellow or red (with the exception of their eyes) pigment. If they did, the albinos would have yellow and red on them as opposed to being solid white, because albinos are deficient or completely absent of melanin only, which is dark pigment.
7) An animal does not go blind because it is an albino. It may go blind as a result of being an albino and being exposed to light that is too bright. This is due to the fact that it is lacking the dark pigment that 'normally' helps protect it's eyes. I've heard of normals losing their sight to the sun.
That's enough for now.

Re: Just a few corrections.... [Re: ] #24745
10/07/04 05:49 AM
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I am still confused about the co-dominate issue. Why is this baby exhibiting both colors? Also, my albino is all white and not stained and my Leucistic out of two Leucistic parents is also pure white, unlike the yellowing parents. Wouldn't they stain a baby to mark him? He is now 12 weeks old and is as white as snow.


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Re: Just a few corrections.... [Re: ] #24746
10/07/04 10:18 AM
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Sheila,

I think what I have gotten from his response is...what you have produced is a diluted version of a WF Blonde. But maybe I misread what he wrote?


Last edited by Judie; 10/07/04 10:24 AM.
Re: Just a few corrections.... [Re: ] #24747
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I think she is simply stunning whatever color she is! Beautiful!


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Re: Now she's a big girl [Re: ] #24748
10/23/04 12:32 AM
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Here she is now a big girl.

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Re: Now she's a big girl [Re: ] #24749
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Oh she is such a pretty little girl

Re: Now she's a big girl [Re: RSXTC] #24750
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> My goodness Sheila! She is GORGEOUS! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" /> I have never seen anything like her. She has the face of a WFB but a body of one unique little girl! She is so pretty and truly a very special girl!

I don't know what she is, but she is awesome. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Now she's a big girl [Re: ] #24751
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She is stunning. I will bet that her personality matches if not exceeds her outer beauty. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for sharing,
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Re: Now she's a big girl [Re: ] #24752
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Now SHES a KEEPER!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Now she's a big girl [Re: ] #24753
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I thought it was platimun??

Re: Now she's a big girl [Re: ] #24754
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She is a Platinum from my Leucistic Line. She is rare. She is very sweet too.


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