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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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02/29/16 07:04 PM
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I'm not sure if you get off post much, or shop off post , but MANY years ago (the wall was still up) the local market had some really good yogurt. Of course the ingredients are in german. ( no sugar free stuff ) The kind we liked was from a local dairy farm. My kids liked it over pudding. We were in Schweinfurt, Bavaria.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Leela  Marcie  Fiona, Dot, Stewie  Dad, Mom, Ruby Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/02/16 06:31 PM
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You know, these balls of fur & energy are really like kids. They manage to make me feel INCREDIBLY guilty that I've been having to work 10-14 hours six days a week the last few weeks. Tonight Gwyn started barking up a storm when I returned her to the cage before she was ready. She was inconsolable, no amount of talking, petting, or treats would get her to stop. What was humorous was I actually put a yoggie in her mouth (gently) as she barked. She very carefully took it back out with a paw & held on to it while she continued. So I did it again & she used her other paw to do the same thing. So, yeah, a yoggie in each front paw & still going. I was like 'okay, you win this one,' & went upstairs. She kept it up for over 20 minutes before I went back down & turned on a light; that worked. Since then (yes, I turned it back off) she's started up a several times, but for less than a minute each. I wish I knew what was prompting this fit/keeping her going. Like that baby who just won't stop crying, you want to do something, but just don't know what. Ok, ok, wanting to go to sleep may also be a factor (much like a baby, again). In all honestly, I'd rather be able to stay up & play with them more. Stupid work & being an adult getting in the way. I'm not sure if you get off post much, or shop off post , but MANY years ago (the wall was still up) the local market had some really good yogurt. Of course the ingredients are in german. ( no sugar free stuff ) The kind we liked was from a local dairy farm. My kids liked it over pudding. We were in Schweinfurt, Bavaria. I actually live & do the majority of my shopping off post. I like the creamier German yogurt, I'll chose it over a lot of other desserts. Bavaria, very nice! That's one of my favorite areas to visit, so beautiful. A long drive for me, 7hrs to the Garmisch or Neuschwanstein areas. I'm on the opposite end of the country.
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/03/16 07:28 AM
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Hutch, I saw where you are! I am jealous! We never got to the Netherlands and you are so close! I found the local foods in our area whether it be canned, frozen or fresh tasted better than what was available at the commisary. I really enjoy your on going story here! I hope your your little glider family gets to spend lots of time with you soon! sounds like they as a whole haven't started pouting yet. (ignoring you) Ours do that from time to time!
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Leela  Marcie  Fiona, Dot, Stewie  Dad, Mom, Ruby Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/03/16 01:01 PM
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Hutch, I saw where you are! I am jealous! We never got to the Netherlands and you are so close!
I found the local foods in our area whether it be canned, frozen or fresh tasted better than what was available at the commissary.
I do love my location, so easy to visit so many different countries  I have to agree about the food! I only get things from the commissary that I really can't find or are too expensive on the economy (original Cheerios are almost 6 euro vs 2.50 on base!). It also helps that my nearest commissary is just over 30 minutes away instead of 5-7 minutes for the nearest Rewe  I really enjoy your on going story here!
I hope your your little glider family gets to spend lots of time with you soon! Sounds like they as a whole haven't started pouting yet. (ignoring you) Ours do that from time to time! Thank you! I appreciate people letting me know that, it's encouraging. The only one ignoring me so far is Arthur... he started this week. He doesn't even want to come out of his pouch when I'm around, except to stick his nose out if I'm passing around treats. Though he did get jealous of the others right at the end last night & wanted to come out... as I was trying to put everyone away  I should add, he does come out in the night & looks completely healthy. It's really just as I'm trying to interact with them that he crawls back in like "nuh-uh, you've been ignoring us, I'm ignoring you!"
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/03/16 09:58 PM
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I wish we had a "like" button. Sometimes I feel like I'm "Bogarting" when I make comments across several posts in one sitting. I keep quiet more than I would like to sometimes.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Leela  Marcie  Fiona, Dot, Stewie  Dad, Mom, Ruby Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/04/16 02:31 AM
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Yesterday was close to a 15hr workday for me. By the time I made it home, three of the four were protesting my absence. When I opened the cage to put their food in, only Morgana came over & wanted out. Merlin retreated from the wheel to the pouch, then three faces poked out at me & Gwyn tssk'd me before going back inside. I felt bad about it & having to block Morgana from coming out to play, but it was almost midnight & I had to be in at 0730. At least Morgana got several treats for saying 'hi.' I'll have to make it up for them once we get through this inspection. Maybe during a lunch break this weekend I can manage time to get them a new, large cage to explore. I wish we had a "like" button. Sometimes I feel like I'm "Bogarting" when I make comments across several posts in one sitting. I keep quiet more than I would like to sometimes. I know what you mean. Besides my lack of experience, I also don't want to seem like I'm just trying to build my count or something like that.
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/04/16 07:24 AM
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Your babies will do this from time to time. It's not easy when you work so many hours. We go through phases of this too. I feel bad, but they don't forget the good times, they just become a bit reluctant. It will pass. I've read that they don't like change. Well ours got over that about 3 months after we got them. We travel with work and stay in our 5th wheel most of the time. They have 2 homes plus we travel and stay with family3 or 4 times a year. In a way, they are more bonded with us as we have never had a sitter for them and they know that where ever we are, they are safe with us. I keep a smelly old fleece blanket over their cage when we are in a new place and we have to leave them for the day.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Leela  Marcie  Fiona, Dot, Stewie  Dad, Mom, Ruby Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/14/16 08:31 AM
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Howdy again, GC! Been a while since I've been able to sit down & do an update (& several days since I'd been able to sit down & read other's updates). 80-hour weeks for the last month have been rough. I think my furries have gotten over my long hours, now they usually just act happy to see me. Gwynevere & Morgana are usually near the door of the cage as soon as I come home. Most nights Merlin is quick to join them as I open said door. Arthur can be indecisive, but feels left out if the rest come out on me, so sometimes he follows the crowd (glider peer pressure?). Here is a little more detail about each of my crazy critters: Morgana is usually waiting on the door itself or right above it. She'll either jump on me as soon as she is able to fit through the opening or drop on to my arm as I reach in for their food dish. Morgana also seems to have eclipsed Gwyn as both my big adventurer & being more bonded. She enjoys riding around on me, but also loves to take long leaps where ever she is able to grab a hold, then will explore some before readily jumping back to me. Has a real bad habit of going to my hand/fingers when I trying to re-acquire one of her colony mates making the process more difficult. Gets cuddly & allows petting as she tires. Morgana is also my smallest. I would worry about her getting enough to eat, but since she will occasionally turn up her nose at an offered treat I know she loves, I'm not concerned. Besides, there's now always some food left in the dish & some cereal in the cage all day long. Must just be her. She's definitely at the bottom of the colony ladder. Quietly & cutely sqeaks with eating yoggies. Gwynevere, Morgana's pouch-sister, has settled down the last couple weeks. Still like exploring, she seems to save it for when I'm not giving her my undivided attention. Yeah, she still gets jealous of the others. Gwyn was actually giving Morgana and me the stick-eye last night as I was talking on the phone with Morgana jumping to the end-table then running back up the phone cord to me (again, & again). Normally, she's right with Morgana at the door when I open it & will explode at me once it's fully open. Mostly she'll be content the ride on my shoulder or back, but gets upset with me when I try to return her to the cage (get nippy). Loves to cuddle around my neck & receives pets, scratches, & yoggies. She'll jump off me to the floor if I starting paying too much attention to another glider for more than a couple minutes. It's definitely a game to her, because if I don't follow, she'll come back to look for me! Won't come to me, but makes sure I see her & walks slowly away until I follow. She's still not a fan of the 'long jump to human-tree' game I've been trying to teach her. She's become even more stubborn about it since Morgana began doing it regularly. She is larger than Morgana in length and girth, not a lot, but noticeably. Gwyn is my most vocal at night. She is probably second in the hierarchy of the colony. Merlin is to a point where is wants to come to play with me... but is not too sure he wants to stay on me. He will scurry around & likes getting on to my head (often via my face). He's not too reliable when it comes staying on me. Melin will jump off on to a nearby climbable surface & is slow to return until cornered, then he'll jump back on for a bit. He'll readily, if nervously, accept food from my fingers. Still crabs if surprised. I really thought he was going to end up the Alpha at first, but I believe even Gwyn is more dominate than he is... does seem to go back & forth who gives way to whom though. He's about the same size as Gwyn, but other than the occasional crab, fairly quite. Arthur, my lazy Alpha. He is probably the least bonded, but is interested, it seems. Arthur sleeps the most & doesn't seem to try to use the wheel as much. He is definitely the largest glider by length & weight, but doesn't seem fat. Maybe he just most his exercise while I sleep. He is the fastest to jump off of me to run & hide under something, & the hardest to re-catch. If I corner him, he will wait until I pick him up, then try to jump off again. Also the only glider with whom I still assume I'll get bit at least at one point. He especially gets bitey if I try to put him back after he's refused to remain on me some night. My second barker & a bit of a bully. He'll actually grab treats from the others. At least they know if they come back to me, I'll give them another. If I give them big pieces of food, Arthur is quick to gather another fuzzbutt to help him put a piece out & chow down at opposite ends. Funny to watch him coordinate it! I need to give this one more one-on-one time, bring him around... Gwyn will just have to deal with it, LOL. It is humorous for me to read my own earlier posts & which I thought would be like what... definitely didn't end up like I first pictured  I also find it funny that my girls have bonded first since most things I read said the males would bond faster. I need to get new pictures to share with y'all soon! Anyways, that's where I am now. I can see things should slow down for me in a week or two. I'm looking forward to starting tent time (now that I have one) & spending more time with each. 30-60 minutes after getting home real late is just not enough for me.
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/14/16 06:07 PM
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As if my last post wasn't long enough  I thought I would add a bit more. After all, that post 'only' used up my entire lunch break, LOL. That's right, I actually took a lunch BREAK & home before midnight, things are looking up! I ordered them some Eucalyptus branches from the site that was discussed on GC a bit ago... The branches arrived last week and my furballs LOVED them!. They stripped any leaves off, carry them around a bit, chew the bark. It was a good suggestion, thanks for those who shared it with us. Gwyn has discovered she can climb the textured wallpaper Germans like to use. Its funny when she climbs up just above head level, then just hangs there watching whatever I'm doing like its the most fascinating thing ever. Gwyn was definitely cuddly tonight  Morgana was less hyper than I'm use to her being, but really wanted to groom my ear Two really cute related scenes from tonight: 1. Merlin was having trouble with the water bottle (it tipped over too far to flow right). I righted it earning a happy little squeak from him who was now able to get water out. (Accidents like this is why I have two bottles!) 2. Arthur came over & they took turns licking & looking around. It would be a couple seconds of drinking while the other looked around like it heard something, then without missing a beat they'd trade so the other drank while the first drinker looked around nervously. That went on for about a minute. Put some treats in the icebreaker container, wove some straws through the bars, then returned Gwyn & Morgana to the cage, & let them all go to town. It was a nice ending to the night, I think. Thanks for reading, I'm going to get some sleep now!
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/15/16 08:59 AM
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 your stories! Keep them comming! Too fun too cute!
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Leela  Marcie  Fiona, Dot, Stewie  Dad, Mom, Ruby Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/15/16 04:15 PM
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So, I was thrown out of my office after the reasonable workday of 'only' 10 hours (matter of perspective) since they wanted to wax my floor. That means I actually was home to play with my gliders for a while! YAY!! I remembered to put on the glider hoodie before going to the cage for a change. Gwynevere went straight for the hood, but Morgana was wanting to leap for everything she could reach. The boys didn't want to join at first. So, I spend about half an hour or so meandering my house, letting Morgana jump off when she felt like it then jump back. She's really learned to like my central staircase since the hand railing winds the whole way. I was letting her do whatever she wanted until she started eating the dream-catcher that hangs in the center of my house. I didn't mind her playing with the feathers, but consumption is not an option. I decided I needed to keep a better eye on her. About this time, Merlin began making a fuss at the cage door, so I let him out. Arthur was still not interested... royalty, sheesh. After Gwyn decided to come out, she mainly stuck to me with only a little exploring at first. Actually, she was very interesting in grooming the back of my head. Guess that's her way of reminding me I'm due for a hair cut. A-n-y-w-a-y-s... she eventually decided to see where the handrails may lead. While she didn't go after my dream catcher, Gwyn did decide she'd had enough of the stairs & wanted to check out the guest bedroom. Off she glides right through the door *sigh* Luckily Merlin & Morgana were happy to jump back aboard so I could follow her without worrying about them. Turns out Morgana likes to know who I message. My phone was rather active tonight and whenever I went to respond, she would run down to my hand & use her nose to tap right where the profile picture was. Once he image expanded, she'd sniff it, then run back up my arm. Huh? Gywn on the other hand is like the stero-typical teenage daughter... she went straight for the credit cards I keep in my cellphone's case. Figures. Merlin just kept trying to eat the case itself. After a little more than an hour of these antics, it was time to go back (I'm wanting to turn in early since I have the chance). They actually gave me almost no grief about going back in!!  Maybe that means they're getting use to the routine, maybe they were satisfied with finally spending some time with me, maybe they're getting use to being handled, or maybe they just wanted at their food dish. Whatever the reason, tonight as a whole has made me very happy. PS: The highlight of the evening has to be Gwyn trying to run in the wheel while holding a piece of carrot in her mouth that's bigger than her head.
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/17/16 03:46 AM
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Hutch really enjoy your post and stories about your gliders. I love having something great to read to Stuart during our night time. I feel EXTREMELY bad as I haven't been well enough lately to do tent time, but Stuart seems fine. We still have our 2:00am-3:00am talk and play by his cage, he likes it though cause he barks like mad if I'm late. lol Do you think he will continue to be ok with this interaction till I feel better? I still carry him in pouch during day and pet him etc... he lets me with no issues. sugiemom to Stuart 
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/17/16 04:09 PM
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Hutch really enjoy your post and stories about your gliders. I love having something great to read to Stuart during our night time. Thank you, I love hearing that  I hope Stuart is getting a good laugh at the antics of my fuzzbutts. Do you think he will continue to be ok with this interaction till I feel better?
Just going off my experiences while working these insane hours for about a month now... he'll be fine. Mine made a little fuss at first just because they didn't like the change in our routine, but they got over it quick. Don't stress about it, focus on getting better & give him what time you're able. ---------------- I got home early again. (Of course, it's so I can go to bed early since I have a meeting dark & early...) Only Gwyn & Morgana wanted to come out & play tonight. It was nice, they were both very cuddly (I think they were still tired since it was early). They each camped out on a side of my neck & accepted all the pets I would give 'em! When I stopped petting to prepare their food, they crawled in to the hoodie (I remembered to wear it again!) until I put it in their cage. That's when they came out of the hood wanting more pets, eventually noticed the food, & meandered in for dinner. Merlin & Arthur were already going to town on the chopped apple mixed with vanilla yogurt. Gwyn made it over first to join them, but Morgana couldn't make up her mind what she wanted: me or food. Food won out when I didn't reopen the cage for her, so she wandered around to the other side of the bowl & tried to squeeze between Gwyn & Merlin. Why? Who knows; three-quarters of the rim around the 5" dish was available. Anyways, Morgana squeezes her way in, so Merlin (who's completely perched on the rim) looks over & 'tssks' at her... to which she responded by shoving Merlin off the rim & in to the yogurt.  He jumps out & runs off to clean himself up, she chows down like nothing happened making some of the loudest happy-squeaks I've heard from one of them yet  . None of this even phased Gwynevere or Arthur. I love my crazy little furry balls of trouble 
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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Finally, left work while stores were still opened to go cage shopping... & found something! The hardest thing was fitting the sucker in to my Mini Figures I like the one that is solid from legs to top  Come home using only 2nd-4th gears (the cage was blocking the rest), reassemble, furnish, & move fuzzbutts before they realize what is going on. I also hide more treats than usual in all the various nooks & hide-holes to encourage exploration & happy feelings about the change. Worked last time. After a cautious start, they're running all over their new (& please be permanent) home. I think I got everything we all wanted (gliders and I)  : Tall & large, grates top, grated floor with separate removable tray, large openings for access. This cage actually one-uped that last desire by giving me two medium size doors set inside a huge door! Only two mods I want to make (nothing is perfect right?). First, the bottom is very noisy when the run/jump/land/scurry/think-loudly on it. So, I'm thinking of adding rubber bumps like you but in cabinet doors for the edge to rest on. Second, the flap that covers the bottom grill & pan requires almost no tension to move. I'm thinking a magnets at the two corners should be enough to hold it. Cage 3 for them: The first two intrepid explorers (Merlin & Arthur) realizing something is different: 
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/19/16 06:42 AM
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This is the first cage with vertical bars, so it was funny watching them slide down a little every time they stopped. They looked slightly confused at that too, hehe. Gwyn was the only one who acted like she wanted out as I was watching. I let her climb on me, walked her around the house a bit, & loved on her some. I ended up taking a call for a while & she just clung just behind my shoulder. I don't know if Gwyn was just listening to the sounds, or if she fell asleep since she held so still for so long. The moment I hung up, she came up to my neck & settled in... so I suspect was sleeping. When it was time to meet some friends for dinner & movie, she gave no protests to being scooped up & held to the new cage's door. Gwyn jumped right in, accepted a yoggie, & headed for the wheel. When I got home, they were still running around checking hiding places for more treats & making happy noises. Also, very little barking during the night. I'll call the first night with the new cage was a success 
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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I've noticed a distinct change in Gwynevere the last couple nights: She used to struggle & squirm when I'd scoop her off of me to return her to the cage. (Actually anytime I'd scoop her up, but that was when it really mattered.) Last night & tonight, as I scooped her up, she was... well, she looked annoyed, impatient, & barely tolerant... but she wasn't struggling or fighting me. Gwyn allowed me to lift her up & return her to the cage.
The metioned dirty looks went away when I gave her the usual 'thanks for playing' yoggie. She's the forgiving sort *eye roll*
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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You may want to cover your walls with fleece or a shower curtain or you will find food stuck to them.
Nice cage set up!
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Well, I was originally planning on giving an update on my progress this week... but instead I'm going to talk about what a butt Gwyn decided to be tonight. First, wasn't really planning on playing with them again as late as it was... but a quick last treat & scratch before bed turned in to playtime as Gwyn & Morgana wouldn't let go of my hand. Okay, dryer had 20min left on it... I'll go with it. I owe them some back-play-time anyways. So they scurry around on me for a bit. Gwyn is being a little nippy, but in a exploratory or grooming way. She's allowing lots of pets & scratches, being cuddly to my neck, very nice. Then, as I'm trying to encourage Morgana to make her longest jump yet... she pees on me. A lot. Like, I didn't know her small body could hold that much. It happens, I get it, so when Gwyn came back to my arm she got a quick pet. I decide Morgana isn't up to the leap yet & go to get her. Much shorter hop, she's back to me. Couple scratches for the returning glider while Gwyn starts pulling on the collar of my shirt behind my neck. It feels like she's trying to 'nest' between it & my neck... or so I though. I feel a couple 'treats' drop down my back...  Thanks, Gwynevere. Dryer is about down, so at this point I've decided enough is enough. I go to return them both to the cage. They were not done playing, so made the return trip problematic. Namely, scoop one & return, who jumps back to me while scooping the other. Finally get both in the cage still hanging on to my hand & Gwyn decides its time to let me know how displeased she is that I'm returning her too soon... with the hardest bites my gliders have given me yet. Three total & I really don't know how she didn't break skin. Gwyn wasn't responding to sound or redirecting her face; I had to resort to blowing. I blew hard enough that it scared both of them off me to opposite corners. I did feel a little bad that Morgana caught part of it, so I gave her two 'thanks for playing' treats: Hers & Gwyn's. No treat for Gwyn after those bites. Such attitude tonight! So, sorry this was mostly a Gwyn rant, but seriously you crazy furball? You may want to cover your walls with fleece or a shower curtain or you will find food stuck to them.
Nice cage set up! Thank you! Funny thing, I ordered fleece for that purpose sized for my last cage not thinking about I meant it to be temporary... so its a little less than half the size I need for this cage. I guess they'll become little fleece blankets & I need to get more on order. Oh, well.
Last edited by Hutch; 03/29/16 02:58 AM. Reason: No more late night posting on my phone!
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
[Re: Hutch]
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03/29/16 03:22 AM
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So, the update I meant to do a couple nights ago... but first, had to do some major edits to my post above. Sorry for the atrocious grammar, I think I need to stop doing late night updates using my phone. Autocorrect is not always my friend & my fingers do not move as fast as my mind. On to the update: Arthur still is distant, but acts more interested in me. I've tried a little for one-on-one time, but its really hard with him. He likes to sleep in the bottom of the pouch under everyone else, is the last one to come out, & usually immediately crawls back in during the day. At least the others will usually relieve themselves & explore a bonding pouch if I offer it to them (it's a trap, mwah-ha-ha-ha!). Arthur has started this new thing where he likes to grab my fingers in his front paws & hang on. Sometimes he holds them watching me, sometimes he'll sniffs or lick 'em, sometimes I get a bite. I never know which. Merlin is still hit or miss whether he wants to come out & play with me. He is quite willing to come to the front of the cage when I'm near (expecting a treat, I'm sure). He will usually allow a very quick couple of pets if I reach in to the cage before moving away. When I do give him a treat through the bars, he'll take it with his mouth, but reach out & grab a finger offering it with one of his paws. Morgana still acts shy inside the cage, but still like to come out about as often as Gwyn. She is still a little hand shy too, but if I give her a treat as payment, she'll allow me to pet her. Sometime she acts so friendly & others she acts like she's still nervous around me. I have a difficult time reading her as a result. It is nice that she's stopped running after taking a treat from me. In fact, Morgana will often take the treat from me with a paw & look at me expectantly. I feel like she's saying 'I have a mouth & paw still free *hint, hint*' Gwyn... we'll you can get a good idea where she is with me in the above (now edited) post. My most bonded, most opinionated, & most jealous glider. She does not like sharing me or having HER plans changed.  If I try to tickle her through the cage, Gwyn likes to reach through the bars for my finger, so very cute. Of course, if I allow her to get a hole of me & pull the finger close, I get a nip. Not falling for that one more than three times.
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
[Re: Hutch]
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03/29/16 06:21 PM
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It was the best of time, it was the worse of times... Arthur has drawn first blood. Okay, lemme back-track. So, I decided that he WAS going to have some one-on-one time with me. Okay, I admit, not the best mentality, but it did help some of my others with their bonding. I got home on time, brought their pouch to the customary bathroom, dumped them out of the normal starting pad, then sprinkled some yoggies as a peace offering for their early wake-up. It also gave them a chance to relieve themselves. After the were all moving about, I offered Arthur a bonding pouch & the rest the normal pouch. It worked. Arthur was separated & the rest were returned to the cage. (Note: Arthur relieved himself just fine before, but didn't stop him from stinking up that pouch.) Also of note... Morgana went of of her way to pee on the pouch after Arthur was inside. She got me too. It went well, overall. He crabbed some (a sound I haven't heard in about a month), but I was able to cup him or pet him in a bonding pouch from about 1900 to 2100 (it was unzipped most of the time). All was very nice! It was near the end that he became really crabby & nippy. It would start as a grooming or tasting... but his bites became hard & he responded less to 'tissks' until he has become the first glider to actually break skin. I had tried talking, singing... everything that had worked before, but her still managed to get a real piece of me. Some of you might be thinking its par for the course, & honestly I'm surprised it took this long, but still the first of MY gliders to draw blood. Shortly after I returned Arthur do the cage. Of course Gwyn was upset that I'd spent time with someone other than her. She went straight for the bonding pouch I was still wearing as I was still returning Arthur to the cage. So, she spent a good part of the remaining evening in the pouch, cupped in a hand just like Arthur. She gave me a few nibbles & bites, but nothing too serious, only annoying. Lots of pets & her cuddling my fingers, then I returned her to the cage with only one hard bite of protest (no blood). For the most part I consider tonight progress due to the time I spent with Arthur & Gwyn curled up in or cuddling my hand... but now having one of my gliders draw blood, it is hard to call it a success. I'll need more one-on-one time with Arthur, I believe.
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/29/16 09:08 PM
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Ouch! I know those bites all to well. Ouch!
Kimberley Feathers-Sweetie, Mister Peanut & Big Mack Fur-Guinan, Mr. Spock, T'Mir, Cho, Toothless, Maverick & Maharet  T'Pol, Elizabeth & Curzon  TY, TJ, Light Fury, Madison & T'Pring Forever in my heart, Gizmo, Tucker, Khayman and the rest of my babies over the
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/30/16 07:00 AM
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Yep, I got one of those this week. But it didn't bleed. Dot got me on the thick pad of my thumb. It's sore and when I do dishes I feel it. It's like a tiny stab wound or cardboard cut. She is very suspicious of me since the storm.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Leela  Marcie  Fiona, Dot, Stewie  Dad, Mom, Ruby Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/30/16 03:37 PM
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Another night of working with Arthur one-on-one. Started much like yesterday, though all were a little more sluggish & resistant than yesterday. Still, treated all four to too many yoggies since I was disturbing their rest & was able to isolate Arthur in to a bonding pouch. I mixed it up a fair amount today: No hand in pouch, hand in pouch, hand next to him, hand holding him. For the most part e was quite tolerant, very little crabbing or nipping, & only a little trying to move away. In fact, even after 2100 when he really began to wake, only a few good bites & no skin breaks. I did settle Arthur down multiple times. I even used his tail against him by covering his eyes with it so he felt like he was hiding. I've seen him do it in the pouch, so I tried it. I can't believe it worked, but wrapping his own tail over his eyes calmed Arthur while he was on my chest cupped in a hand. After almost four hours with me, I was able to return him to the cage without incident or any real marks left on my hide. He's still shy & was happy to return to the cage, but I feel there is progress since yesterday. Might be optimistic, but then again, I felt that way about Gwyn until it became consistent. I do find it funny that all the others besides Morgana 'overslept' after I woke them early two days in a row. Yesterday they never really settled down after being disturbed, whereas today they went back to sleep quick. Guess they were still worn out from the day before.
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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03/31/16 08:16 AM
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Maybe it's her time of the month... Mine will love and cuddle (it's rare but Dot too!) And then become nippy and ignore me for a few days. About the time I give them space, it gets a bit worse (I think because they think I am ignoring them), and I have to start over. I'm seeing a pattern, but haven't kept track, just started writing on the calendar. Since I have 2 girls, they seem to be in a bad mood at the same time. There is also a lot of scuffle in the pouch about mid day around this time.
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Leela  Marcie  Fiona, Dot, Stewie  Dad, Mom, Ruby Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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04/01/16 07:31 PM
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Tucker could be a grumpy bugger if I didn't spend enough time with the little monster, but then Tucker was Tucker.
No glider is every going to fill his shoes. He was my little side kick, partner in crime.......................
But you would never believe how much of a little terrorist he was when he came to me. Tucker was gifted to me by our late beloved KarIn. She was receiving Chemo treatments when Tucker came OOP and she couldn't socialize him. I received my choice out of 3 different gliders and chose Tucker.
That little fatboy would stand up and swat at me. The bites I took, don't get me started there, I could pick him up by his teeth! They were buried in my finger of course.
I only got about 4 years with him before KarIn called him to be with her in heaven. But it only took me a year to make a bra baby out of him. Something I didn't think that little monster would ever turn out to be.
Kimberley Feathers-Sweetie, Mister Peanut & Big Mack Fur-Guinan, Mr. Spock, T'Mir, Cho, Toothless, Maverick & Maharet  T'Pol, Elizabeth & Curzon  TY, TJ, Light Fury, Madison & T'Pring Forever in my heart, Gizmo, Tucker, Khayman and the rest of my babies over the
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Re: Glider of the Round Table
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04/03/16 09:32 AM
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Tucker could be a grumpy bugger if I didn't spend enough time with the little monster, but then Tucker was Tucker.
No glider is every going to fill his shoes. He was my little side kick, partner in crime......................
I miss his stories... Feather, you should write an ebook... I wish I were a glider slave sooner and shared in some of the early fun! That little fatboy would stand up and swat at me. The bites I took, don't get me started there, I could pick him up by his teeth! They were buried in my finger of course.  Thanks for sharing! I would so read your book!
Dawn Be patient, and Trust your journey.... Grace Leela  Marcie  Fiona, Dot, Stewie  Dad, Mom, Ruby Wish I could turn back time... Miss you all...
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