Sugar Glider Community Calendar

Please click here to see larger view
Articles
More coming soon!!
Today's Birthdays
B1u3sky, StellaLuna
Member Spotlight
Hutch
Hutch
Belleville, IL
Posts: 1,482
Joined: November 2015
Show All Member Profiles 
Last 10 Posts
Gliders of the Round Table 10
by Feather. 03/27/24 07:04 PM
Logging in Problem
by Feather. 03/26/24 06:07 PM
Cloaca swollen?
by Hutch. 03/16/24 11:51 PM
Wheels, Toys, Toy supplies, pouches and more.
by Ladymagyver. 03/07/24 11:16 PM
Gliders of the Round Table 9
by Hutch. 03/07/24 10:52 PM
Stewie:" It's MY Mouse!"
by Hutch. 03/04/24 12:12 AM
2024 Sugar Glider Calendar and Cafe Press Store
by theresaw. 02/29/24 08:55 PM
Custom Cage Liners Machine Wash & Dry
by gr8pots. 02/27/24 04:23 PM
Google+

Facebook
Join Us On Facebook
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Eggs in shell? #1131825
06/17/11 11:57 PM
06/17/11 11:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 714
Nova Scotia, Canada
S
sunjana1 Offline OP
Glider Guardian
sunjana1  Offline OP
Glider Guardian
S

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 714
Nova Scotia, Canada
Just curious if anyone has had any experience with feeding hard-boiled eggs in the shell. Not even just chicken eggs but maybe even smaller ones like quail eggs.


Jana
:wfb: - Tim
Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1131837
06/18/11 12:16 AM
06/18/11 12:16 AM

M
meganelizabeth
Unregistered
meganelizabeth
Unregistered
M



DONT use the shells, gliders systems are sooooooooo tiny and fragile and shells can puncture their little systems, bourbon says not to use shells because it has the potential to do this, same thing with peanuts btw

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1131841
06/18/11 12:22 AM
06/18/11 12:22 AM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 28,219
Washington D.C. Metro Area
DCMuffin Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
DCMuffin  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 28,219
Washington D.C. Metro Area
Yep...take the egg out of the shell when you feed it. Actually, though...hard boiling eggs is not a bad thing at all. The calcium in an egg comes from the shell so when you boil it, some of the calcium is retained in the egg itself. thumb

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1131955
06/18/11 08:22 AM
06/18/11 08:22 AM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 628
Austin, Tx
PocketPrincess Offline
Glider Lover
PocketPrincess  Offline
Glider Lover

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 628
Austin, Tx
I feed quail eggs in the shell. They do eat bird eggs in the wild and there is noone there to boil and peel it for them. If you do it, I would watch them for the first few times.


Mommy to:
One Skin Kid: Emily Kathryn born 07-23-07
A German Shepherd and Pink Poodle: Wrangler and Flirt
1 Rat: Lizzy Borden
16 Suggies: Bella, Edward, Jasper, Emmett, Rosalie, Alice, and Renesme, Liberty, Justice, America, and Glenn, Hope, Tony, Abby, Ziva, and Jethro

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1131986
06/18/11 09:40 AM
06/18/11 09:40 AM

M
Megs
Unregistered
Megs
Unregistered
M



I boil the fuzzies eggs to avoid salmonella. I know they eat eggs raw in the wile, but what diseases do wild gliders have? How long are they living if they die 'naturally'? (Read: Not as prey.)

I've heard of people offering hard boiled eggs with taking just the top portion of the shell off, allowing the gliders to tear it apart.

I wouldn't know, personally, because my gliders don't like eggs. The day I stop offering eggs to my gliders wouldn't be soon enough for them. shakehead

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1132036
06/18/11 11:41 AM
06/18/11 11:41 AM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 628
Austin, Tx
PocketPrincess Offline
Glider Lover
PocketPrincess  Offline
Glider Lover

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 628
Austin, Tx
I don't boil, but suggest people do if their gliders aren't use to raw..everything my babies get is raw.


Mommy to:
One Skin Kid: Emily Kathryn born 07-23-07
A German Shepherd and Pink Poodle: Wrangler and Flirt
1 Rat: Lizzy Borden
16 Suggies: Bella, Edward, Jasper, Emmett, Rosalie, Alice, and Renesme, Liberty, Justice, America, and Glenn, Hope, Tony, Abby, Ziva, and Jethro

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: PocketPrincess] #1132039
06/18/11 11:48 AM
06/18/11 11:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 714
Nova Scotia, Canada
S
sunjana1 Offline OP
Glider Guardian
sunjana1  Offline OP
Glider Guardian
S

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 714
Nova Scotia, Canada
Originally Posted By: PocketPrincess
I feed quail eggs in the shell. They do eat bird eggs in the wild and there is noone there to boil and peel it for them. If you do it, I would watch them for the first few times.


Thank you, I was leaning toward it being acceptable simply because raw, in shell eggs are part of their diet in the wild. But I hesitate because I don't know what differences there might be in our domesticated gliders.

I appreciate everyone's input, its something I'll have to give further thought to. smile


Jana
:wfb: - Tim
Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1132045
06/18/11 12:10 PM
06/18/11 12:10 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,749
80 acres of paradise in KS
Dancing Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
Dancing  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 22,749
80 acres of paradise in KS
Quote:
They do eat bird eggs in the wild and there is noone there to boil and peel it for them.



But you have to understand the risk of your gliders getting sick too. Remember, wild gliders live 5-7 years. Part of that is preditors but part is because they don't have human slaves looking out for their best interest and helping to keep them safe from parasites and bacteria. Raw eggs can have salmonella. I'm not willing to risk it with my gliders.


620-704-9109
Judge not until you have walked in their shoes and lived their lives. What you see online is only part of the story.

I could have missed the pain
But I'd of had to miss the dance


The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears.
Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1132047
06/18/11 12:15 PM
06/18/11 12:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,763
Connecticut
Kitkatt1216 Offline
Glider Slave
Kitkatt1216  Offline
Glider Slave

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,763
Connecticut
I feed hard boiled eggs sometimes here. My vet actually recommended keeping the shell on. It makes dinner time a game for them, too, because they have to work to get to the good stuff they like. I use chicken eggs, and have been doing it for a few years here with out any issue.


Katrina
Owned by Murphy and Peanut

**RIP My loves Amunet, MiaKoda, and Kieko**
Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1132049
06/18/11 12:21 PM
06/18/11 12:21 PM

M
meganelizabeth
Unregistered
meganelizabeth
Unregistered
M



Yea it is acceptable in the ild, and that is exactly why wild gliders only live 5 to 7 years. The only reason they live so long in captivity is because we kep thm safe from predators and from things that are not healthy or safe for them.

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: ] #1132051
06/18/11 12:27 PM
06/18/11 12:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 714
Nova Scotia, Canada
S
sunjana1 Offline OP
Glider Guardian
sunjana1  Offline OP
Glider Guardian
S

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 714
Nova Scotia, Canada
Originally Posted By: Dancing
Raw eggs can have salmonella. I'm not willing to risk it with my gliders.


I would not use raw, for this and other reasons.

Originally Posted By: meganelizabeth
Yea it is acceptable in the ild, and that is exactly why wild gliders only live 5 to 7 years. The only reason they live so long in captivity is because we kep thm safe from predators and from things that are not healthy or safe for them.


I understand this point of view, but can't really lend it much credibility unless someone can provide a first hand account of a sick or injured glider as the result of getting a shell-on egg. So far only positive first hand experiences with shell-on and even raw eggs have been shared. Bourbon was mentioned as stating the danger - can anyone direct me to where that might be recorded?


Jana
:wfb: - Tim
Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1132064
06/18/11 01:25 PM
06/18/11 01:25 PM

M
meganelizabeth
Unregistered
meganelizabeth
Unregistered
M



Just talk to bourbon and she will explain to you why the shell and other things like peanuts are dangrous, she explained it to me very well and honestly, even if I heard only good things about shell on and other foods liike that rom every owner I talk to id still never give it to him after what she explained to me, to me even a minute risk is not worth it, jmo

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1132084
06/18/11 02:31 PM
06/18/11 02:31 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,742
in my happy place
S
sugarlope Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
sugarlope  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
S

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,742
in my happy place
People used to feed shell on hard boiled eggs, BML used to even include putting in the whole egg (shell and all). I used to cut hard boiled eggs in half and let each cage get the rest of the egg out on their own. (I gave them an un-cracked hb egg once, and it was hilarious watching one of my kids roll around with it, lol.

Some people felt like the shell could pose a risk of injury to the gliders, so most people stopped feeding the shell. I don't give the shell anymore, mostly because I had to pick up all of the little shell pieces spread around the cage.


~Gretchen

If we never loved, then maybe we would never feel pain. Love anyway. It's worth it.
Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1132166
06/18/11 05:29 PM
06/18/11 05:29 PM

D
dolphinlover3015
Unregistered
dolphinlover3015
Unregistered
D



I feed scrambled and Kona LOVES it. I have not been able to get Kalua yet but maybe thats because she is a baby fresh away from mama??

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: Dancing] #1132206
06/18/11 07:45 PM
06/18/11 07:45 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 628
Austin, Tx
PocketPrincess Offline
Glider Lover
PocketPrincess  Offline
Glider Lover

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 628
Austin, Tx
Originally Posted By: Dancing
Quote:
They do eat bird eggs in the wild and there is noone there to boil and peel it for them.



But you have to understand the risk of your gliders getting sick too. Remember, wild gliders live 5-7 years. Part of that is preditors but part is because they don't have human slaves looking out for their best interest and helping to keep them safe from parasites and bacteria. Raw eggs can have salmonella. I'm not willing to risk it with my gliders.


That's why I said others should boil it. I don't, but my gliders have been on RAW for 4 years under supervision of Oklahoma State University. I know that nothing I get has any bacteria- buy locally- and I have not had any issues with E Coli, Salmonella, Giardia, or Coccodia. I also feed my dogs raw and all of my animals thrive on it.


Mommy to:
One Skin Kid: Emily Kathryn born 07-23-07
A German Shepherd and Pink Poodle: Wrangler and Flirt
1 Rat: Lizzy Borden
16 Suggies: Bella, Edward, Jasper, Emmett, Rosalie, Alice, and Renesme, Liberty, Justice, America, and Glenn, Hope, Tony, Abby, Ziva, and Jethro

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1132426
06/19/11 03:16 AM
06/19/11 03:16 AM

M
Megs
Unregistered
Megs
Unregistered
M



Nothing is bacteria free, especially when the animals (such as chickens) eat anything, including their own poop. :sick:

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1133237
06/20/11 10:08 PM
06/20/11 10:08 PM

L
lovely1inred
Unregistered
lovely1inred
Unregistered
L



I have and know of other people that have fed boiled eggs with the shell on/cracked to invite some foraging type behavior. My gliders did not get hurt or die from this.

However. The danger that was stated is coming from a vet. Yes, BML did used to use the whole egg, shell on. A vet consulted at one point did say that, since the blender is not going to completely 100% pulverise the shell into dust, that there was a small chance that a piece of shell *could* be ingested and potentially perforate the esophagus, stomach, or intestine. That is when Bourbon started advising against using the whole egg, since the calcium added by it is minimal at best.

It is up to each of us individually to decide what risks we are or are not willing to take with our gliders.

I have not fed shell-on eggs myself since learning what I have above.

Also, peanuts are their own separate issue IMO and go more into aflatoxins; the shell is the least of my worries there.

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: PocketPrincess] #1133269
06/20/11 11:27 PM
06/20/11 11:27 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,748
Vincennes, IN, USA
suggiemom1980 Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
suggiemom1980  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,748
Vincennes, IN, USA
Originally Posted By: PocketPrincess
I feed quail eggs in the shell. They do eat bird eggs in the wild and there is noone there to boil and peel it for them. If you do it, I would watch them for the first few times.

Gliders in the wild also have half the life span of gliders in captivity. I would not advise giving gliders raw eggs, because of the salmonella risk alone.


Connie

812-890-9734, 24/7 Emergencies/Joey issues

SmallWorldSuggies

"The greater the challenge, the sweeter the reward"

"Glide free :rbridge: Silly "Ozball" Ozzie. You left us 11/21/12..way too soon. You're forever loved, remembered, missed."
Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: suggiemom1980] #1133281
06/20/11 11:47 PM
06/20/11 11:47 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12,099
Vulcan, MO
Meg_n_Von Offline
Glideritis Anonymous
Meg_n_Von  Offline
Glideritis Anonymous

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12,099
Vulcan, MO
Originally Posted By: suggiemom1980
Originally Posted By: PocketPrincess
I feed quail eggs in the shell. They do eat bird eggs in the wild and there is noone there to boil and peel it for them. If you do it, I would watch them for the first few times.

Gliders in the wild also have half the life span of gliders in captivity. I would not advise giving gliders raw eggs, because of the salmonella risk alone.


Agreed! Salmonella is something that's always freaked me out.


Megan & LaVaughn

Sugar Exotics

:bb: Kira :grey: Sadie - Neal :wfb: Pip - Violet :rtmo: Logan - Charli - Tyler - Seamus :plat: Chloe - Cas :leu: Boone

RIP David
Your life was short lived, but your memory will last forever.
Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1133555
06/21/11 02:08 PM
06/21/11 02:08 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 628
Austin, Tx
PocketPrincess Offline
Glider Lover
PocketPrincess  Offline
Glider Lover

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 628
Austin, Tx
I've fed all of my animals nothing BUT raw for 4 years. This is taking the discussion off track, so if anyone is curious about my diet, I can post all my info after work.


Mommy to:
One Skin Kid: Emily Kathryn born 07-23-07
A German Shepherd and Pink Poodle: Wrangler and Flirt
1 Rat: Lizzy Borden
16 Suggies: Bella, Edward, Jasper, Emmett, Rosalie, Alice, and Renesme, Liberty, Justice, America, and Glenn, Hope, Tony, Abby, Ziva, and Jethro

Re: Eggs in shell? [Re: sunjana1] #1133617
06/21/11 03:14 PM
06/21/11 03:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,748
New Jersey
JillMarie Offline
Serious Glideritis
JillMarie  Offline
Serious Glideritis

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,748
New Jersey
Originally Posted By: sunjana1
Just curious if anyone has had any experience with feeding hard-boiled eggs in the shell. Not even just chicken eggs but maybe even smaller ones like quail eggs.


the only problem I see with raw eggs is the danger from salmonella.

I just read an article on yahoo news about the 10 dirtiest foods and eggs are listed. It advices that even after HANDLING eggs by cracking them in a pan or bowl, that you should THOROUGHLY wash your hands before touching any other foods.

It also advices that eggs be cooked thoroughly as eating even sunny side up eggs increases the risk. With this in mind, I would never feed raw eggs. So if you are going to feed a boiled egg in the shell, I feel it should be safe as it has been boiled, thereby killing the salmonella. Just be sure to wash your hands after you handle the egg smile

If one was to feed raw eggs, I feel the commercially available eggs are too risky. Perhaps if you raised your own and they were free range it would be less risky.

If I was able to get quail eggs, I would certainly boil them and offer them to my gliders. Would be fun smile


:grey: Bosom Buddy Creations:grey:
^website link wink

Remember that God Loves You!

Moderated by  Feather, KarenE, Ladymagyver 

Sugar Glider Help Page



Please click above to see how you can help!!

Moon
CURRENT MOON
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 379 guests, and 83 spiders.
Key: , , Owner, Admin
Newest Members
Mellefrl, klowvrrr, gracefulguardian, KiyokoTheDoll, Hazelneko
7324 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums132
Topics10,374
Posts159,160
posts in the last 24hrs0
Members7,324
Most Online2,693
Jan 2nd, 2020
Last 10 New Topics
Logging in Problem
by Anonymous. 03/24/24 11:43 AM
Gliders of the Round Table 10
by Hutch. 03/07/24 10:50 PM
Cloaca swollen?
by Mellefrl. 03/04/24 02:39 PM
2024 Sugar Glider Calendar and Cafe Press Store
by theresaw. 08/15/23 02:37 PM
Stewie:" It's MY Mouse!"
by Ladymagyver. 05/25/21 09:57 AM
Gliders of the Round Table 9
by Hutch. 02/12/19 11:35 PM
Custom Cage Liners Machine Wash & Dry
by gr8pots. 06/03/14 10:25 AM
Popular Topics(Views)
849,551 TEXAS
679,068 OHIO
487,134 OKLAHOMA
432,138 UTAH
321,663 NORTH CAROLINA
Supported Browser
This site was tested and is best viewed in Google Chrome & Mozilla FireFox



Firefox 3

Download your copy today!!!
Home Forums Links Sitemap Vets Breeders Sounds Contact Us Names Rules & Policies

GliderCENTRAL
©1998-2024
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software
(Release build 20180918)
Page Time: 0.049s Queries: 14 (0.009s) Memory: 1.4136 MB (Peak: 1.6824 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2024-03-28 09:53:47 UTC