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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: Karin] #867319
11/15/09 08:37 PM
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Ah, what a shame...

Now to find another cage source with good quality/escape proof cages.


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: oakley] #867320
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I also do wish that this wouldn't have happened to you. the pain is unbearable, I know. along time ago, one of my girls got a puncture wound,it was not a fite wound, it was as a pin had gone thru her left arm, rite past her elbow & into the glider part. after quite some time had gone by, we were finally able to find out what had happened. one of the bars was loose, & I think she tried getting out, & got herself snagged on it. Larry fixed it, & we thought that was going to be the end of our troubles. NO!!!
cosmos & combara escaped one day,& we didn't know it. i came home from work @ 9:30pm, sat & visited w/Larry, then got up to get the kids their meal for the nite, & skeeter, our cat, was proudly displaying her 'find' of the day.
this was both the kids. combara was gone, but cosmos hung on all the way to about 6am. he stayed on Larry's chest all nite on the couch. he must have had internal injuries, because had no outward injuries. Larry found what had happened. another 'wire' from the cage was loose, & it could be bent back, & they must have followed each other out sometime after Larry left for work. I saw & heard nothing, as i was upstairs, & when i came down, i didn't check the pouches, I just scurried around, & went out to do my errand & such. i was SO grieved over this, I was really a basket case, & started throwing up. I had never experienced that before. i stayed the rest of the week in bed, not getting up to do anything but keep watch on my 2 girls. i kept them w/me in my bed during the day, & we put the second cage out of the house & the girls are only in the first cage we bought for our gliders, from suncoast, & these bars are the rite kind to have for gliders.
the bad cage had predominately vertical bars, real thin. we put the 2 cages together, the new one was a foot taller, so we wanted to have that as a playroom, & the original cage was to be the bedroom & dinning room for them. we were able to get the 2 together real easy, as both cages matched up w/some kind of opening door to be able to use both cages.
i will NEVER use that cage again. maybe I'll put some plants in it, or something. or, i will just throw it away, i don't ever want it in my house again. thin wire cages I would think would be the culprit, as it made it wider(easier) for them to get out. & the older girls, thank god, must have been too big to get out, or didn't realize they were gone. we really do need to keep the thickness of the bars into the equation when we buy cages.
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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: ] #867321
11/15/09 08:50 PM
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cry How very heartbreaking. I am so very sorry for your loss Brittney cry
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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: ozzi] #867323
11/15/09 08:53 PM
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we got our first cage from Lisa & 'Arnold' @ suncoast. it is pretty big, & the bars are little squares, & they are thick,also.
talk @ ya L8R


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: josefine] #867353
11/15/09 09:46 PM
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I am so sorry this happened. It breaks my heart.. frown
Could you please tell me where she got caught?? I have this cage and I'm about ready to have an anxiety attack over it!! Did it happen in one of the ladders? I have my ladders covered with petscreen beacause I was afraid thay would fall through them but if it was the outside bars and I need to get a new cage I will....

Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: ] #867362
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Brittney, I am so very sorry this has happened to your little girl. My condolences to you and many hugs also.


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: Sherri] #867383
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So sorry for your loss hug2

Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: hpyhwn2003] #867527
11/16/09 07:08 AM
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Oh Brittney, I'm so very sorry about Bella cry
My heart, thoughts & prayers are with you hug2 hug2 hug2


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: sugarglidersuz] #867572
11/16/09 10:01 AM
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I have this cage with 2 of my gliders that are on the small side in it. Thank you for your post. My boy is always trying to squeeze his head through the bars now, I am getting him a rep. I am so sorry for your loss. Your post probably just saved my baby.


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: Karin] #867607
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I am so sorry for your loss

Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: ] #867633
11/16/09 01:11 PM
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Since Brittney hasn't been online recently & to relieve your anxieties, I'll answer your question CalamityAnnie:

Apparently these were wire "ladders", the very thing that you say is now covered with petscreen. Frankly, I don't trust wire ladders in ANY form and would remove them completely. Who's to say that they couldn't/wouldn't chew a little hole in that screen? You think you have the problem solved....only to find that you were fatally wrong? No, thanks--my opinion is to remove them completely, game over.

If your gliders need a way to get from bottom of cage to top, either a braided fleece rope or 1" diameter nylon cord would be a much safer alternative.

And yes, it is VERY difficult to tell over the internet if the bars in a cage would have a dangerous flexing factor...from my experiences in prior purchases, the Suncoast cages are well worth the extra $$ spent for the strength of the bars (compared to Exel's flight cages, which are flimsy and the weld spots tend to break after time).


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: ] #867638
11/16/09 01:17 PM
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this is just heartbreaking.
i just went over every bar on my 2 cages, i got them at
suncoast and the bars dont seem to be flexible at all.
i guess we all learn from others tragic accidents.
i am so sorry abt. your loss.

take care,
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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: minkasmom] #867642
11/16/09 01:21 PM
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Thank you for the recommendation on Suncoast cages! I am planning to purchase the Sturdy Cage soon, but I've had multiple people recommend the Excel cages, too. It's nice to see a review that compares them both.


I feel confident now that the Suncoast cage will be safe for my gliders.


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: minkasmom] #867645
11/16/09 01:24 PM
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I'm really so very sorry for the loss of your little one.

I have 9 of these cages and have not had any problems with them at all. I only use the ladders in a couple of my cages and I made tight fitting sleeves to go over them because the gliders seemed to be unsure of the spacing on them. (they have a layer of denim and a layer of fleece on the top side of the ladder and a layer of fleece on the underside)

The spacing of the cage bars is appropriate for gliders and is the same spacing as the Excel cages or the Sturdy cages. I don't think it is time for the other owners of these cages to panic and start replacing their cages.


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: Dancing] #867774
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I am so very sorry this happened to you!! HUGS

I have that cage and checked it a dozen times now. I used my fingers (4) to try and seperate the bars, my fingers will not go past my knuckle no matter how hard I tried.

I then checked and measured it against my HQ Suncoast cage I got from Lisa 6 years ago, the bars are IDENTICAL in type, size and spacing. They are made exactly the same way.


Minka, you mentioned ladders. Mine did not come with the ladders. Did the accident happen on a ladder OR was it due to the bars of the cage? I am confused.


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: SugarBlossoms] #867783
11/16/09 06:01 PM
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Ok, the cage from Ebay did come with 2 ladders. The bar spacing is larger on these "ramps". I only used one and no one ever seemed to have a problem. They really enjoyed hanging from them. Somehow she *slipped?* and the vet said her neck swelled, lodging her tightly between the bars. I don't know how else to describe it. I didn't take any pics.

Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: ] #867800
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Brittney, that was a tragic accident sweetie. Most of us wouldn't have known about the ladders either.

Thank you for clearing this up. That cage is made by the same company and is also an HQ cage. We had (still have one in there) 2 of our rescue kids so the ladders were never put in, instead, hubby built shelves, thus the reason no ladders in our cage. HOWEVER, my Excel cage DID have the ladder in it that I just found has 1" spacing! My gliders have been in it for 3 years but I just literally ripped the ladder out! It will NEVER be used again.

I know this is of absolutely no help in your grief right now, BUT, Bella did not go to the rainbow bridge in vain. I believe everything happens for a reason, I am so sorry this happened to her. Bella most likely has saved many many gliders from the same accident happening to them. We will get the word out everywhere about this and PLEASE everyone, if you have a glider site, put a warning up on your site about the cage ladders!!!

God speed precious Bella, you will always be remembered in our hearts!

Last edited by SugarBlossoms; 11/16/09 06:27 PM.

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My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: ] #867801
11/16/09 06:26 PM
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so it was the ladder she got her head stuck in? I myself have a flight cage similar construction as the one u have, but with two doors instead of one big and it too comes with two ladder with wide spacing. my glider dolce is pretty slim and would jump-through them sometimes, gabbana does it a bit too, but neither got stuck yet...knock-on wood. i do noticed the bars of the cage, though, do expand a bit when assembling some thick baby links or wood sticks.
sorry for the loss of your little bella.

Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: ] #868119
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I'm so sorry about Bella Brittney.


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Re: Freak accident in well known cage [Re: TammyLynn] #868372
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Thank you all for your kind words. It has been really hard on me because Bella left behind her amazing mate Blanco, my sweet leu. Blanco is the coolest glider I have ever met. But, he is very needy for human and glider companionship. Unfortunately I am in no position to provide him with another glider companion. Luckily, I called Denise/Minkasmom and she came down Sunday afternoon and picked up my sweet baby. She has a pair that seems to have the perfect personality for Blanco. He won't have to be single too long and that is what is most important.

As for Blanco and his demeanor... If any of you EVER get the chance to own an SSdreamsicles/Melissa Cowles glider, you will NOT be disappointed. She gave me the best gift when I bought Blanco from her and I will miss his little fuzz butt incredibly. No one that has met him can believe how cool he is. I miss ya buddy but Auntie Denise will take amazing care of you...

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I am sorry Brittney.
I would agree Dancing with you about these cages. I have one myself and many breeders use them. There are two little doors up at the top on the sides. Perhaps that is where the babies Bourbon has are getting out.


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