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Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202717
12/10/11 10:08 AM
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frown Noooooooo... Its my only hope to not get bitten! :hbreak:

Should I open the cage door and feed them the yogurt?

See? This is why I need you guys so bad. I'm utterly hopeless.... :willy:

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202728
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No, it's NOT your only option. And you are NOT hopeless. But I'm sorry, my dear, you don't want to do it through the cage bars. After a couple of days, what is his reaction when you open the cage? Does he still lunge and crab at you? If so, I can't stress enough that the treats are NOT the most important thing right now.

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202731
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I'm not sure yet. I've been trying to give him time to de-stress. I only open the cage to get their food and apples and stuff taken care of everyday. Otherwise I leave them be and just sit next to the cage to talk with them.

Should I try opening the cage door today without putting anything in the cage?

When he gets scared of noises other people make in the house and I talk calmly to him he immediately goes back to what he was doing instead of staring at me like "wth are you looking at me for?" like he used too. Almost as if he thinks my voice is reassuring now. :D

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202733
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Good, I'm glad you're giving him time. That's what he needs. Bourbon (a long time member here) would tell you to go to the cage, open the door, tell him everything is going to be okay, then shut the door again. Then do this several times throughout the day and nothing more. Her theory is that it lets them know that you're their protector. It does work.

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202741
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She told me to call her, I should get around to that today. I tried opening the door and all JubJub did was take a step back and look at me. So I told him it was okay and shut the door again. No lunging so far!

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202744
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Excellent!

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202745
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I'm so excited!! Even this little bit of trust is such a big relief to me. He was so scared of me just two days ago that if I went near his cage he'd crab and lunge. Now I can sit by his cage and talk to him whenever I please and he just does his thing.

I'm sure things will only get better now. Thank you Aimee for all your help, your advice has had such quick results! I called Bourbon and she said she'd call back in an hour smile

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202751
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Congratulations on your progress! Aimee and Bourbon are awesome!

I have a lunge and crabber myself! Jasper has taken over a year to get much calmer. He is and forever will be my pouch grouch! but, until I got on here and talked with Bourbon and Aimee and all the other suggie owners, I would have never been able to get my boy out and play with him.

I have 4 boys and they are all soooo different!

You will do fine with your lil one. Just remember to be patient and give him time. You will love the reward of it!


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Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202919
12/10/11 08:20 PM
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Does anyone. Have tips on how to put snacks in their cage? Overhand or underhand?

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202924
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Usually mine come up to the bars but when its a new sug then i do underhand and have my hand open they usually put there paws on my fingers and grab it with there mouth and if there really scared i just hold it with my thumb and pointer finger and put it close to them till they grab it


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Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202951
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You can also make your hand into a fist and put the treat on top of your hand.

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202993
12/11/11 12:30 AM
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Will the on top the hand fist thing stop JubJub from biting? LOL! That would be beautiful <3

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1202995
12/11/11 12:32 AM
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btw Aimee I bought fleece for them today and made a comfy little blankie for them like you suggested. The shirt I had a bit of trouble trying to figure out how to get it out of the cage but my lovebutts fell asleep in their food bowl curled up together which gave me a chance to sneak it out! YAAAY!

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1203009
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Yayy, glad you got it out of there. clap I'm glad to hear you got some fleece, that's excellent. They'll thank you for it and you won't have to worry about little fingers and toes getting stuck in the threads (although - you DO need to trim their nails, don't forget!!).

The top of the hand will not encourage them to bite. Keep a closed fist so there are no fingers extended. But again...give it time...don't push this. I can't stress enough that they need to be able to trust you just going to the cage and that treats can come in a bit, once you've established that trust. smile

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1203098
12/11/11 10:50 AM
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Oooh. Do I trim them now or when he trusts me to do it? I don't want to force him and scare the crapola out of him.

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1203105
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That is all going to depend on his nails. It's one thing you'll want to pay special attention to. Overgrown nails can cause a host of problems. They can split, they can grow around and into their little hands and feet and they can get caught on things in their cage. If you see them getting caught, you'll want to trim them. They don't all like it, especially those that aren't trusting, but it's necessary.

Depending on the wheel you have, some have inserts that you can use to help keep the tips down a bit but they should never substitute nail trims. And, if you aren't comfortable with doing it, you can have the vet do it for a small charge.

As far as it hurting your relationship - if you do it yourself, he won't like it, that's no secret. He will also probably be mad at you for a bit, but he'll get over it. Better to have him angry than hurt.

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1203726
12/12/11 09:11 PM
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Should I be opening the cage at night when they are up and about?

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1203865
12/13/11 02:09 AM
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No. Leave them be to play at night, door closed. If you go in there, talk to them. That's fine. But otherwise, for now, let them have their play time. smile

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1203968
12/13/11 12:26 PM
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Thanks Aimee smile they don't get up much in the day so I didn't know if opening the cage while they slept was helping anything or just wasted time lmao

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1203972
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You'd be surprised. They're supposed to sleep. But that doesn't mean they don't hear. And, if you are opening the cage during the day and they aren't moving or getting upset, that's an absolutely WONDERFUL thing and means they're getting used to you. So don't stop that...let them know you're there and that you aren't going anywhere. smile

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1203975
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When JubJub is up and I open the cage to tell him its going to be alright he doesnt really move at all. He stares at me for a moment then I close the door and he goes back to eating or drinking.

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Stopping to look at you is better than crabbing or running to hide :-)


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Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1203994
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That is the truth!!! Makes me smile everytime he decides to look instead of taste :rofl2:

I have high hopes he's coming around for me, maybe accepting me little by little into his colony/family :lshower:

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: Mastiff_Mama] #1205160
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This is so true. Once the sap is gone on a branch they are licking in the wild, they will "bite down" to release more sap. Just think of it as him biting as an automatic refill button.


YUP! My girl loves honey and although she won't let anyone hold her she loves to hold your finger and lick honey off... and my friends love giving her honey this way because its so sweet... until the honey is gone and she gives them a little chomp! LOL


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Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1205288
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I've had one for a month now that I'm still wary of. She might bite me!! you aren't alone, and this is the best place for you. We can get over our fears, and by we I mean gliders included.


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Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1205359
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Thanks Amelia, I'm still scared of reaching in the cage while he's awake. But he seems much more interested in me then he was in the beginning!

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I hope is gets better very fast for you. I get leary sometimes with mine too.


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Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1205449
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Originally Posted By: kbishness
Thanks Amelia, I'm still scared of reaching in the cage while he's awake. But he seems much more interested in me then he was in the beginning!

Keep in mind that your reservations and nervousness will show and he will react the same. If you're nervous, he will be, too and he'll sense that you're hesitating. Be confident. smile

Re: Terrified of my male [Re: ] #1205520
12/16/11 07:54 PM
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LoL dang, Aimee caught me being a nervous momma frown

I dont know why I'm so scared, I think its because when we got my babies we were told they wouldnt bite and that they would always be gentle and loving, and I got bit and lunged at as soon as I got them home HAHA!! So now I'm not trusting my confidence anymore. I got some mealies to give him as a peace offering. Hopefully he'll think mommy is starting to be pretty cool. rofl

Plus with Aimee's Monkey Cliner I know he'll be more comfortable in the cage and stop sleeping in his food bowl all day :rofl2:

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