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Can’t stop the self mutilating

Posted By: Anonymous

Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/20/21 12:17 AM

I’m unsure if anyone will see this but I have no where else to turn at this point.

I have an 8 y/o male glider that I cannot stop from continuing to self mutilate and I’m at the point where I am genuinely considering euthanasia.

This started with a nodule in his tail that caused him to chew off the last third or so of his tail, I immediately took him to my exotic vet who amputated a small section of tail to remove an exposed bone. His tail was bandaged and he was given pain meds, antibiotics, and a sedative. Everything was fine until the day we took him back to the vet and he chewed through his bandage and tore up the end of his tail. Then we tried an ecollar, his tail improved but after several days the collar caused his face to swell (problems with lymph drainage I think), so I removed it and rebandaged his tail. The next few days seemed to go fine until I rechecked his tail and it had gone necrotic because he’d managed to get it soaked in urine without my noticing, his cloaca was also swollen and bleeding slightly so I rushed him to my vet again, she suggested we wait and watch his tail, lanced his impacted anal gland, and gave me a different cone to try. I also purchased an e jacket from Denise (who is a literal angel), and she included another e collar. Well none of the three were able to contain him or prevent him from reaching his tail/cloaca, so I combined the moleskin from Denise’s collar with the second one the vet provided. It seemed to work but I left for an hour this afternoon and came back to him collarless, more tail gone, and an even more inflamed bleeding cloaca.

I don’t know what to do anymore, we’ve spent over $1k on him thus far but are more then willing to pay for more surgeries. I am just beginning to think that his quality of life has diminished so much I don’t know if it’s really fair to him.

He lives in a two story critter nation with my 11 y/o female, and eats TPG if that matters.
Posted By: Feather

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/20/21 01:11 AM

I don't know what to tell you. I have trussed a glider up with an e-jacket and an e-collar at the same time for a tail amputation which turned into three amputations.

With his age it is very hard on him to keep being put under.

I wish you the best, that is all I can tell you at this point.
Posted By: KarenE

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/20/21 02:55 PM

We know they do this because they are in pain, and it is evident your little fella is in a great deal of pain for him to go through all he has and still manage to do as much damage as he has to himself.

So, the pain meds did not help and keep him from going after the site?

You have done so much for this little one. I'm not sure what else can be done, however, I do want to do some research. I won't be long as this is an urgent matter.

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Posted By: GnG

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/20/21 07:26 PM

Anon here,

Well he managed to pop off the e collar last night, but looks shockingly okay compared to last night when he looked like he could pass any minute. The only thing I can think of is that he nearly strangled himself trying to get out of the e collar. He’s removed all the dead tissue on the end of his tail but has seemed to stop chewing on it and his cloaca. Not really sure how to proceed but I’m definitely a bit more hopeful then last night when I posted this.
Posted By: Feather

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/21/21 02:38 AM

If he is leaving it alone I would just watch him. Most just want to clean things up and then they quit messing with it.
Posted By: GnG

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/21/21 03:05 AM

That’s what I’ve decided to do, he hasn’t continued to mutilate today past what he’d done last night after removing the cone. I’m hoping he’ll power through.
Posted By: KarenE

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/21/21 01:55 PM

Your fella has been busy since I was here, and it seems he hasn't done any more damage to himself. What I found wasn't much help at this point, so we will go from here.

Don't assume he is safe leaving the e-collar off. You will need to watch him very carefully. They can be very sneaky with this behavior.

I am going to move this thread now to our Health & Hygiene Forum.

Please keep us updated on how he is doing.
Posted By: GnG

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/22/21 01:56 AM

He’s perky and alert tonight, happily had a mealy snack. His tail hasn’t had any further damage done to it, and his cloaca has returned completely to normal. Im guarded but hopeful as the top of his tail still certainly looks funky but his behavior has improved by a mile.
Posted By: Feather

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/22/21 02:53 PM

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Posted By: GnG

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/25/21 01:05 AM

Another update, he’s leaps and bounds better then the other night. His cloaca is back to normal and he still has not touched his tail since he initially took of the cone. The necrotic tissue is starting to fall off naturally and my vet had agreed to just leave him be since he’s improving so much!
Posted By: Feather

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/25/21 02:14 AM

That is good news!
Posted By: KarenE

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 03/25/21 01:58 PM

That is really good news. Keep watching him for a while longer and keep us updated.

We would love to see some pictures of this little guy.
Posted By: GnG

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 04/01/21 07:02 PM

Unfortunately he back at it. The remaining 1.5 cm of tail that I was suspicious off became stiff and cold and he’s started to mutilate it further. I’m keeping up antibiotics and pain meds and I’m hoping he’ll stop at that, if not back to the vet we go
Posted By: Feather

Re: Can’t stop the self mutilating - 04/02/21 01:09 AM

He was mutilating because the tail was dead. Hopefully once the dead part is gone, hopefully he will leave it alone.
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