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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: Bourbon] #673053
11/12/08 07:38 AM
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B, so are these Large Strongyles (Strongylus vulgaris) or are they the Small Strongyles (Cyathostomes)?


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: princessmegi] #673066
11/12/08 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: princessmegi
These gliders aren't exhibiting ANY symptoms, as is the case many times with parasites. Some gliders may, but others won't.
I have Lidia's sister and so far on 3 fecals in the past 11 days has been clean. I know we're ALL trying to work together and find the common denominator here so that all gliders can be tested/treated that may have it..

Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: sugarglidersuz] #673071
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Originally Posted By: sugarglidersuz
B, so are these Large Strongyles (Strongylus vulgaris) or are they the Small Strongyles (Cyathostomes)?


That is the 64 million dollar question, Suz. So far, out of all the gliders that are infected, no one has stated which one. Hoping someone will get clarification from the vet soon.

Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: ] #673087
11/12/08 09:22 AM
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I'm so sorry for everyone that has been infected. Poor Suki, I was supposed to cuddle with you, didn't get a chance, and now I feel guilty that I am happy it turned out that way frown
Now I know about the fecal tests, and will have Sugar & Nibbles tested. Just because I haven't yet, not because we have had any contact (and we haven't).

Thanks to all, especially Kris for taking the right steps!


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: PocketPrincess] #673145
11/12/08 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: PocketPrincess
And, are we sure we are looking at strongyles? They seem to be prominent in equine and bovine type animals and are a bloodworm, not an intestinal worm?


There are specific families of strongyles that effect marsupials. Its listed in the Merck vet Manual.

Strongyles can be host species specific according to my vet as well. There are other worms in the larger family group that can transfer to humans or other animals as well. The parasites can also be hosted by temporary hosts (insects and rodents) as a way to their normal host animal. Here is a piece of what I already posted:

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From what I gather the strongyle eggs that are showing on glider fecals IS NOT the equine type (also according to my vet, I called and asked). From the Merck vet Manual here are the two recorded SPECIFIC families responsible for the strongyle eggs in gliders:

Parastrongyloides and Paraustrostrongylus

However, on searching them I can only come up with Austrailian studies done on marsupials and their parasites or Nematode.net which has some good but limited info. Nothing specific like you can find for just say "roundworms" or "hookworms". Parastrongyloides trichosuri is one that effects Brush-Tailed Possums. Or even the root of it "Strongyloides" are directly threadworms and several of those species effect humans.
Here's the link:
http://www.nematode.net/Species.Summaries/Strongyloides.stercoralis/index.php
The different bugs are at the bottom.

When looking into the Paraustrostrongylus family you can find other Austriailian studies as well. Here is just one:
http://www.samuseum.sa.gov.au/Journals/TRSSA/TRSSA_V097/TRSSA_V097_p257p280.pdf

And on page 12 (warning if you click it is 4.32 MB to load took my work computer a min or so to fully load) you find the listed lengths of these species of worms for Paraustrostrongylus. And from that it appears they are only up to a little bigger than a centimeter. VERY different from their cousins that infect horses (up to 2 inches for large strongyles). And more logical to me. But I wonder why its only Austrailian studies that these bugs come up in.

Or even still it may be yet ANOTHER worm in this family. I sure wish someone had an exact species name narrowed down. Would be alot easier to determine life cycle, and such.


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #673148
11/12/08 11:46 AM
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These two types are also intestinal worms, not bloodworms like the equine strongyles.


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IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #673157
11/12/08 12:10 PM
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Can one of the mods change the title of this post since it seems to be affecting gliders other than those at the Ohio gathering? I don't want folks to ignore the thread because they weren't at that gathering. This is something everyone needs to be aware of.

Last edited by LSardou; 11/12/08 12:22 PM. Reason: title change
Re: IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: thefotokat] #673165
11/12/08 12:22 PM
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Re: IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: LSardou] #673189
11/12/08 12:58 PM
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On the equine link Bourbon posted it says the life cycle of these strongyles can complete in SIX weeks. Now...do we have to worry 6 weeks from now instead of 4?


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Re: IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: Suggiegramma] #673191
11/12/08 01:02 PM
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That link Bourbon posted for the life cycle for the equine variety not the one linked with marsupials (separate families). Without knowing for sure what species are inflicting the gliders who have it there is no way to be sure about their life cycle. frown


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Re: IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #673206
11/12/08 01:47 PM
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Brando was in to see the vet again this morning and he tested negative again. We have another appt for the 26th for a recheck, at that time I'm taking samples of ALL my other gliders also.


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Re: IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: Sherri] #673468
11/12/08 10:23 PM
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I will be testing my crew since we have attended some gatherings where affected gliders have also been and just want to be on the safe side.


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Re: IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: Trigger] #673471
11/12/08 10:33 PM
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ALL of my gliders have been tested and all fecals came back clear.


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Re: IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: Srlb] #673479
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My most recent glider came from someone who had gliders test positive, all of mine will be treated. hug2 and prayers to all.


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Re: IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: Srlb] #673480
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Harley was tested today and she came back NEGATIVE!


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Re: IMPORTANT Message from Kristopher DeRose [Re: kthiessen] #673507
11/13/08 12:16 AM
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For anyone who was at the SGGA or any gathering after that, it is asked that you take your gliders in for a fecal float.

If you are able to make it to your vets office within 30 minutes time, most can just call ahead and get the vets ok to just bring in your fecal specimen in a baggie. Make sure it is fresh, stays out of the sun and is delivered and tested within 30-45 minutes.

If you have several cages, and you are having fecals done, lets say the first one comes up negative, the second comes up positive, you can stop there. Once you have ONE fecal come back positive ALL cages need to be treated.

Once you go to the vet and you get this done, I am trying to gather info for Dr.Tristan, so if you could please send the following to me as soon as possible I would appreciate it.
You can send it in PM or email to srlb@gtek.biz



If you could please, PM me names/ages of all gliders you had tested.
vets name
Phone number
Treatment if any needed.
Recheck required when?
Where you got your infected glider from.
Transport time
How many stops were made
Did many people handle them in between locations.


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: ] #673632
11/13/08 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: glidernanny
I don't care the slightest bit where it has come from or what it has come from at this point or who gets mad at whom. What I do care about is an identifiable real name of this wormy little booger that I can share w/my vet so that she can know exactly what we are looking for.


Any experienced vet should be able to notice parasites in fecals without being told the name of one to look for or even someone telling them to look for them. Poop is poop and parasites are parasites, it doesn't matter what animal the poop came from. I believe if you warn or tell a vet to look for something specific- they may doubt what they see and just go ahead and treat just to be safe because the parent obviously is concerned.

When I take fecals in- I do just that. The dr usually comes back and tells me they don't see anything but do I have any concerns- nope, it's just fecal check time or I'm doing intro's and wanted to be sure no one had anything. They ask if I have any concerns because not all concerns can be addressed just through a fecal check. This has been how I handle fecal checks with 2 different dr's and they both handled the fecal check after procedure the same. We shouldn't have to tell our vets what to look for or to even tip them off that others are finding something- let them do their job. Now if they come back with they found something but their not sure what it is- then bring up the name of what is possibly floating around.

As for the parasite being transmitted through food like HPW powder being repackaged- Parasites need a host- HPW powder or pouches made by a vendor do not supply what parasites need in a host.


ancy
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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: jacknsally] #673636
11/13/08 09:28 AM
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Nancy - I have a concern & a question about this.

I was talking to Dr. Kate about the fecals last night & she said that this particular parasite needs to be done in a sugar float because it WON'T show up in a zinc float (which is what they use when looking for giardia & various other things). So, if we don't tell them what we're looking for, then how will they know which float to use?

Further, and I wish I had thought to ask Kate this last night - if they have the option of sugar or zinc and someone just goes in and asks for a fecal without saying what they're looking for, which one do they pick? And if they only pick one, how do they know the glider is 'clean'?

Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: ] #673640
11/13/08 09:35 AM
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Gina - if that is the case, then many gliders have had this for a long time and I mean years. Because who has ever had a sugar float done? And I don't see that being the case unless each person can say their positive was tested on a sugar float. We have lots of positives across the community and this is the first mention of a sugar float.

So if we do a sugar float- will that pick up on giardia or other parasites? If not, then obviously we need to have 2 different floats done at fecal checks.

*edited to ask*- I looked up sugar float- it seems to only be done on livestock fecals- so do traditional and exotic vets even do or use sugar floats?

Last edited by jacknsally; 11/13/08 09:40 AM.

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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: jacknsally] #673648
11/13/08 09:57 AM
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I was at the Expo in Michigan with 3 of my gliders. They never came in contact with any other gliders and Bourbon & Suz were the only ones that even handled them. Do I need to be concerned and have them tested?


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: jacknsally] #673649
11/13/08 09:59 AM
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Im wondering if "sugar floats" are what is used for equine, bovine, etc. for detecting their species specific strongyles? Sheep even have their own set of strongyle species. It would be a question for a large animal vet as I never inquired WHAT kind of float was used when on the horse farm for all those years.

Still waiting on a call from my vet - she does see large animals as well (we have horse areas around) so I'll add that question to the mix. Which float does she use for gliders.

To those who have positive results, has your vets given an EXACT species name? Please if you have the scientific name or can call and ask for it it would be helpful in understanding their life cycle.


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: gliderma] #673655
11/13/08 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: gliderma
I was at the Expo in Michigan with 3 of my gliders. They never came in contact with any other gliders and Bourbon & Suz were the only ones that even handled them. Do I need to be concerned and have them tested?


Who did you get your gliders from & was it recently? If your gliders have NEVER been connected to anyone who has a positive glider, then I'd say you wouldn't have to worry. Though if it has been awhile since you've had a fecal check- it doesn't hurt just to go in for another one.

Better to be safe and catch anything early


ancy
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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: ] #673889
11/13/08 05:16 PM
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This is what I have been dealing with since April. I was told it was a fluke (sp) a member of the hook worm family (vet said more common to birds). On top of that we battle Tric. I bleach everything toys, cage , wheels, pouches. The vet decided cyst may have settled in liver and the kids are not getting high enough dose of meds so we went to double meds and 7 days on 3 weeks off for 3 months. At this time every one LOOKS fine. Last week of treatment we had soft stool. SO I am with you all praying all our babies will get better. Kris has stood by me every step of this with Gemini and the rest of my crew. Thank you Kris.

PS I keep my HPW and bee pollen in the freezer per my vet. Since we freeze it anyway after it is mixed it shouldn't make a difference to the nutrients. I told my vet i don't freeze the honey but he pointed out I do once I have the mix made and said that also should not be a contributing factor.


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: jacknsally] #673902
11/13/08 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: jacknsally


Any experienced vet should be able to notice parasites in fecals without being told the name of one to look for or even someone telling them to look for them. Poop is poop and parasites are parasites, it doesn't matter what animal the poop came from. I believe if you warn or tell a vet to look for something specific- they may doubt what they see and just go ahead and treat just to be safe because the parent obviously is concerned.


You would think this to be true. If I remember right at the SGGA Dr T. said there are different dyes and if the vet doesn't have the right one the BOOGERS can be missed.
I bring this up because I brought Gemini home from the SGGA. I took her to the vet and he said she was clear of parasites. When I took Sprite in he said she was clear as well. He also said if he ever saw a parasite in a glider poo he would take a pic cause they are hard to find. The next day I took Sprite to my Nashville vet and she was loaded with tric and flukes. He also rechecked Gemini and she too had them. If you are not 100% sure always get that second opinion. If I had taken the gliders to Nashville in the first place I may not have lost Sprite.


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: cyndiekb] #673911
11/13/08 06:07 PM
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I did not get any gliders recently and none of them are from anyone involved here, so i guess we are ok. Will have them checked, to be safe however! Hope all is well with all the babies affected! heart


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: gliderma] #673916
11/13/08 06:15 PM
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I managed to get poohs from Kaliya, Kalysta, Ivy, Caspian and Snupi.
They are negative.


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: Trigger] #673955
11/13/08 07:53 PM
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Spencer & Sugar are negative as well. Hoping everyone gets well soon!!


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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: Cora] #673990
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Gliderma I was at the Mi. Expo and I think I was the only one that had gliders there that could have possibly been connected to any of this and they both tested neg. today.

Matchmaker I think it was you that asked about a livestock vets advice on the float. My vet is a livestock vet also and he said the best to use in this case is zinc sulfate.

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Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: ] #674080
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i had pepper and keoni tested and both had neg fecals. I will be getting the rest done as well and then retesting in a few weeks.

Re: People who Attended the Ohio gathering please [Re: ssdreamsicles] #674090
11/14/08 12:55 AM
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I have an appointment on Saturday to get my 6 tested.

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