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Lady Godiva... #669090
11/06/08 03:33 PM
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Lady Godiva is a cremino female that was OOP in January. She came home to me in August and got a clean bill of health from my vet. Last Thursday, I walked into my glider room to discover Godiva, weakly hanging on the side of her cage. I rushed her to my E-vet, where we gave her sub-q fluids, a dose of steroids, and started her on an antibiotic. Her symptoms: Lethargy, Weakness, Dehydration, Lack of Appetite, Lack of Coordination, Head Tilt, and Head Tossing.

While she has improved over the last week, I have been having to sub-q her daily because she refuses to drink water. I've been hand feeding her every 2 hours (she's been eating Vanilla Ensure) and some times she'll only take a mouth full or two, other times, she'll eat 4 or more milliliters at a time. She is still tossing her head and has a head tilt, but she's stronger and has been starting to wonder around her hospital cage (at least as much as she can).

Right now, she is taking clindamycin. She is refusing water, but has been eating progressively more Ensure every day. She is alert and appears to be aware of her surroundings.

My vet did a blood test on her and it came back negative for all known pathogens, including toxoplasmosis.

If anybody has any thoughts or suggestions, feel free to contact me. My vet is more than willing to take any thoughts/ideas into consideration...

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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669092
11/06/08 03:39 PM
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Wow Leyna, I'm very sorry to hear about your girl.

The first thing that came to mind was encephalitis - it can be caused by many many different things...just an idea.

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669098
11/06/08 03:49 PM
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Leyna, I'm sorry for what you are going through. Could this have anything to do with what you went through with Holly? I'm not sure if your vet every decided if it was contagious or not, but did Holly start with some neurological symptoms? That is what came to mind (I have been going through old Health threads lately, which is why it came to mind so immediately).

You might want to have your vet contact Peggy's vet (Dr. Tristan) to see if he has any ideas. dunno

I'm so sorry she's sick. hug2


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669102
11/06/08 03:53 PM
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Gina, we have pretty much already concluded that she has some level of inflammation in her brain/spinal column. That's actually why she was given a dose of steroids. We have also been giving her a small dose of Metacam every couple days, but that was more for fever than inflammation, but it helps with both smile She has felt warm to the touch a lot of the time and my vet felt that giving her Metacam wouldn't do any harm and if she does have any pain, inflamation, fever, etc, it would help smile

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669103
11/06/08 03:55 PM
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Gretchen, Molly had toxoplasomis. While it's generally spred by direct contact, that was actually the first thing we checked for and Godiva defiantly does not have toxo...

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669106
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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: sugarlope] #669113
11/06/08 04:24 PM
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Did she actually have an infection, or did he give the antibiotic prior to the CBC results?

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669124
11/06/08 04:35 PM
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My vet did fecals, UA, and a blood draw, then started antibiotics. So the samples were taken prior to any treatment, but we did start a broad spectrum antibiotic immediately (Clavamox). Because she got sick on Thursday, we kind of got caught between a rock in a hard place when it comes to medicating because instead of having the results in 2 days, I had to wait until Monday to get her test results. My vet and I agreed that her chances would be just as good if not better if we at least tried something while waiting for her test results. My vet did decide to change her antibiotic after the test results came in, but that was because of her lack of response to the Clavamox... It had nothing to do with her test results because everything came back normal. We still have a C&S pending... I will say that every day I talk to my vet and every day, she's surprised that Godiva is still here. I honestly have never seen a glider that was a sick as Godiva is and survived for more than a few hours, but day after day, she is still here. She's a tough little lady.

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669136
11/06/08 04:49 PM
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Oh how terrible, I will say a prayer for your little girl. I hope you find out what her problem is and that it has a positive prognosis.

Keeping her in my thoughts.


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669144
11/06/08 04:55 PM
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Ok, so no infection - that doesn't rule out virus. With encephalitis, she would be slowly getting better over a week or two with some lasting effects. It is rare, but I think it can also be induced by a brain tumor. What about Lyme disease (or other diseases carried by insects), or Herpes?

There's some great info here:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/encephalitis/DS00226

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669150
11/06/08 05:02 PM
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Do you think viral meningitis is a possibility?

**My vet said not to rule out unknown bacteria or protozoal infections.

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669167
11/06/08 05:26 PM
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Gosh Leyna, with something like this, I don't think I would rule out anything unless your vet has scientifically ruled it out, ya know what I'm saying?

I wish you the best of luck & if I can do anything for ya, even just spend time doing some research - just let me know hug2

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669200
11/06/08 06:28 PM
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hug2 hug2 hug2 I hope you figure out what is going on! Poor baby!



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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669202
11/06/08 06:29 PM
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when mine were sick & totally dehydrated, i was going to give them some of the ensure, but suz remembered that it really isn't safe to give them, because it solidifies in the stomache. i don't want to alarm you, so, i will look back @ my pm's, to see if i can find it, or maybe she was telling me this on the phone.
will come back after going to my pm folder.
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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: josefine] #669226
11/06/08 06:55 PM
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I know the risk of feeding ensure to a dehydrated glider, but my thoughts are ensure is better than nothing... I have offered her dozens of different things and the only thing she will eat is ensure. She won't even drink water, juice, pedialyte, gatorade, etc. Even if I mix that other stuff with ensure, she will refuse it. So far, she has been peeing and pooping normally.

Unfortunately, I some bad news about Godiva. Over the last few hours, she has developed edema (fluid retention). I have set up an appointment with my vet for tomorrow. So far, she is still stable.

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669406
11/06/08 10:29 PM
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I am thinking of you Leyna...I am sorry I have no ideas to offer...but big hugs girl!


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: Karin] #669452
11/06/08 11:30 PM
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Oh Leyna,

I am so sorry you are going through this with your little girl. Is there any chance she could have an inter-ear infection? I am thinking of the nerological symptons of head tossing and lopsidedness. How much does your baby weigh? Could she have fallen in her weak state and maybe hit her head on something in her cage to have given her a concussion? Sorry I am trying to think of others things. To help out. Have you tried Pedialyte or gliderade?

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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: Karin] #669455
11/06/08 11:43 PM
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I'm so sorry Leyna about your little Girl.
I will be keeping her in my prayers, and you as well. hug2

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669463
11/07/08 12:13 AM
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I see that bacterial infections have been checked for....Leyna have your vet call Tristan and ask him what kind of fungal infections could be the cause of something like that. Many over look fungal infections as they just arent as common as the bacteria ones...just a thought.

Also, for the water retention...best thing to do honestly, I know you said you have tried and cant get her to, but force it if you have to, and that is to get her on regular water or pedialyte...

I already know you are aware that ensure causes dehydration to continue and worsen, so Leyna, please try to get her off of that if there is ANY possible way. With her symptoms and her getting worse, the ensure really worries me, even though it is a good thing to feed when a glider is sick and not dehydrated.

Best of luck.


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: SweetGliders] #669571
11/07/08 07:12 AM
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My thought was inner ear infection also as the symptoms you describe are common in rats when they get it. Please update us. wishing you and your baby well.


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: Gossamer] #669613
11/07/08 08:45 AM
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As far as forcing fliuds - I don't know if this is possible with a glider, as I have only ever done it on puppies - but is tube feeding an option? I have done this on premie chihuahua puppies that were barely the size of a glider. You have to be very careful about the qty you give, and the time you wait in between, but it would be a way to get the pedialyte and anything else necessary into her if she refuses it. Something to discuss with your vet hug2

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669628
11/07/08 09:35 AM
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have u tried pudding-or maybe watering down some pudding w/pedialyte? i'm sure it's not the healthiest thing for her but if the ensure is causing problems it could be an option-they taste a lot alike to me dunno

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669653
11/07/08 10:34 AM
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OMG I'm so sorry for you and your little girl!
Please give us an update...
All I have is good thoughts and positive energy to give, but I hope it's enough!! hug2


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: SariYappa] #669687
11/07/08 11:47 AM
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A little update... This morning, I noticed a very significant improvement with Godiva. She is tracking (following sights/sounds with her ears/eyes/head). It wouldn't seem major to most, but after dealing with other gliders with neuro problems, I know this is an important improvement.

I am also taking Godiva to the vet today @ 2:45. I had to change my appointment time because I now have to bring my kitty in too (she has an abscess on her left hip, poor thing). Her edema has currently subsided. My vet feels that it's probably being caused by being sub-q'ed for 8 days strait. The fluid is just kind of spreading out across her back instead of bubbling up in one place because it's been distended so many times.

Peggy, in regards to the Ensure. I have force fed and hand fed several gliders over the years. Usually once you get the food to a certain point in their mouth/throat and can swallow. Unfortunately, this is not the case with Godiva. She doesn't seem to have the normal swallow/gag reflex most animals have. Because of this, I am unable to force feed her anything frown If she doesn't want it, she just want swallow... It's another issue my vet and I are going to address today. I think we are going to try to tube feed her if we can get a cath that's small enough to go down her throat. Godiva is a petite glider though, so I'm not sure we'll find a cath small enough. She is urinating and defecating normally though, so we have have no intestinal issues as a result of the Ensure.

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11/07/08 11:52 AM
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Good Luck!
We'll be waiting for a better update after the vet... better meaning she is doing better! smile smile smile


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: SariYappa] #669838
11/07/08 04:25 PM
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Happy to hear Godiva had a significant improvement.
Keeping her and you in my prayers. I will be waiting for an update. hug2

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669847
11/07/08 04:42 PM
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Leyna - I'm not sure if your vet has done a necropsy on a glider before, but when Dr. Kate did Fawkes' I know she looked very closely at his trachea as it was causing him trouble. Knowing her, she took pics of everything. If you aren't sure what size to use, you might have your vet give her a ring since this was so recent, I bet she could give you some insight. 423-391-0303

Edited to say - I've just put in a call to Kate, she was in with a patient, but will call me back...

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Has anyone ever tried to use a thickening agent in water or pedialyte? I know with patients that are on aspiration precautions or dysphagic, we thicken the liquids. It is pretty much just cornstarch. I don't know if that is glider safe. I'm thinking if you took pedialyte, thickened it to nectar consistancy, she may like it. I dunno...

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11/07/08 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: Monster
Leyna - I'm not sure if your vet has done a necropsy on a glider before, but when Dr. Kate did Fawkes' I know she looked very closely at his trachea as it was causing him trouble. Knowing her, she took pics of everything. If you aren't sure what size to use, you might have your vet give her a ring since this was so recent, I bet she could give you some insight. 423-391-0303

Edited to say - I've just put in a call to Kate, she was in with a patient, but will call me back...


Just got off the phone with Kate - she said to use an IV catheter (with the needle pulled out) about 1 & 1/2 - 2 inches long. She said anything between 16-20 gauge should not choke her. She said that if you want to use a french catheter, there is a chart to convert 'gauge' to 'french #', but she couldn't find hers, so you would have to ask your vet to convert it for you.

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669928
11/07/08 07:43 PM
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Update: Godiva has gained 2 grams since Monday. She peed twice while at the vets and her urine was nice and clear. My vet said she could see the improvement. Her head tilt is almost gone, she's not throwing her head back any more, and she was even trying to crawl to me when on the exam table smile

We talked on meds and for now, she's on the same antibiotic. We started her back on Metacam for the next few days, for fever and encephalitis. She'll continue to get that until her head tilt is totally gone. For now, as long as she continues to be compliant, my vet wants me to keep sub-qing her vs. stressing her out by cathing her. Also, we discussed the Ensure... My vet feels that for Godiva it's the best option right now because that's what she wants to eat and it for fills all of her nutritional needs. If she starts refusing to let me sub-q her, before she starts drinking water, we'll have to figure something else out, but as long as I can get water into one way or another, the Ensure is fine.

Also, I fed her when we got back from the vet. I managed to get her to drink 1cc of gatorade after giving her her antibiotic (it taste icky) and she drank 3 more cc's of ensure smile She's also been trying to climb around in her cage a little and she was crawling to me at the vets office when I put her on the exam table.

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: ] #669938
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hug2 That is encouraging news Leyna! It sounds like whatever was going on might be starting to clear itself out. Thank you for the update. Many hugs and prayers to you and Lady Godiva... hug2

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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: Flgliderlover] #669943
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clap Phew!! sounds like a long HAPPY road to recovery! Go Lady Godiva!! hug2


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: SariYappa] #670290
11/08/08 12:52 PM
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Godiva is back to throwing her head back frown Other than that she doesn't seem to be worsening, but it concerns me... Hopefully it's just due to all of the excitement yesterday. She is still eating well (2 meals of 3cc's each already this morning), but is still refusing anything other than Ensure.

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Leyna:
How is Lady Godiva doing today?
Keeping her & you in my prayers. hug2 hug2

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11/08/08 05:18 PM
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hug2 Keeping Lady Godiva in my prayers.

Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: LSardou] #670509
11/08/08 08:25 PM
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This is a far shot - you mentioned cats? Is it in any way, shape, or form possible that your cats may have transmitted something that she reacted to? Indoor cats I assume would be less likely exposed to any weird outdoorsy parasites or chemicals but maybe their litter or food? I'm throwing out wild guesses since it seems neurological and I can't think of anything else.

Perhaps she sustained a fall during the night?


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: Sabarika] #670586
11/08/08 11:11 PM
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Godiva has never had any exposure to my cats. My cats aren't allowed in my glider room and even if they managed to sneak in there, my cages are double stacked and Godiva has a cage on top...

Right now, Godiva is in my bra. Her condition hasn't changed since this morning... I forgot to mention that my vet also gave me a dewormer/antiparasitic to give all of my animals in case there was some sort of cross species contamination. All of my animals (gliders, cats, dog, and foxes) got their first dose this morning.

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Ok! I'm sorry for suggesting it, I just had no idea. I really hope things look up soon.


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11/09/08 03:40 AM
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Keeping you & Godiva in my thoughts & prayers. Hope you can give us better news tomorrow hug2 hug2

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Just another little update on Godiva. She is still gobbling up her ensure and refusing everything else. Last night she got a little squirmy, so I put her in a small (16x16x24) cage and let her wonder around for a while. This morning she had a small, normal BM. I fed her and gave her her meds and a few hours later, she had a very soft stool. It wasn't diarrhea, but it was pretty mushy... I hope she isn't developing other issues due to all of the meds she's on. The antibiotic she's taking hasn't ever caused diarrhea when I've used it before, but I did just start her on a 3 day course of wormer yesterday, so maybe that's the source...

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Leyna,
Thanks for the update.
Hang in there, Godiva will get better. She has a lot of prayers and good thoughts sent in her way and yours.
I know this must be really stressful for you.
Send you a big hug, hug2
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Hows Godiva this morning?

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Godiva spent her first night back in her cage. She was just too squirmy for her pouch last night... She seems to have done well, with the exception of her poor nose. Apparently, she was butting her head against the cage bars and rubbed a sore on to the top of her poor little nose. I kind of wonder if she was looking for me... She is contentedly curled up in my bra now.

Hopefully her recently increase in activity is a testament to her improving health. She was extremely vigorous this morning while eating her breakfast... Also, despite snoozing quietly right now, she's actually been very active lately. I don't want to get my hopes up to high, but I think my little girl might be getting better smile

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dance yippee!
when you say "breakfast", was it anything more than ensure this time????
and maybe the soft stool is just a sign that her body wants more than ensure? (I know you are trying, not your fault!)

I hope she keeps improving!!! hug2
p.s. off topic: do you have a fennec fox??


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: Cora] #671576
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She's still only eating ensure frown I've been offering her pureed versions of my gliders supper every night, but she's been turning her nose up at everything. My vet says that Ensure has everything she needs, so it's not a bad thing for her to want to eat, it's just frustrating that she won't even try anything else. But on a positive note, I just fed her again and she pooped a nice solid poop smile

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PS- yes, I have fennecs smile I really enjoy them, they are so entertaining.

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I am sure you have already thought of this, but it's runnin through my head. LOL Maybe you can do her like rescues when you switch diets. Slowly add the pureed version of your normal glider diet to her ensure a tiny bit at a time, and very gradually add more each day till she is weaned off of the ensure??? Maybe if you do it slowly enough she won't even notice??? We all know how spoiled these little babies can get. LOL And it's all our fault!

BLESS YOU for all your caring and effort!!! I am sure Lady Godiva can feel all your love and caring and can't help but get better with a Mommy like you to care for her!

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I just thought I'd step in and add that I'm blessed enough to get to see Godiva in person and she's got the biggest will to keep on keeping on that I've ever seen in a glider!

Leyna's even been so sweet as to let me help with a couple feedings and today Godiva even slurped up some of her dinner all on her own! laugh Well, she ended up with a wet chin and kept blowing bubbles in the food because she wasn't completely co-ordinated, but she sure did try! wink

Oh yeah, I've also seen Leyna try and give Godiva stuff other then Ensure and she wants nothing to do with it and just spits it back out. tounge Leyna's tried EVERYTHING to get Godiva to eat other stuff, but she's a stubborn little bugger, lol.

I sure hope little Lady Godiva keeps up the progress Leyna! wink Enjoy the bra-baby while she lasts cause if she keeps getting better she's gonna want to run in a wheel for a week straight just to make up for all that sleeping! roflmao


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Robin, I would have to be very careful doing that because Ensure is perfectly balanced. Ultimately, as long as she isn't getting constipated, strait Ensure is actually a very healthy thing for her to be eating. She's getting all of her vitamins, minerals, protien, and calories right there.

Nicole, I can't thank you enough for your help with her. While I love Godiva dearly, caring for her round the clock can get very taxing. It's nice to know I can relax for a little while when you are around.

Godiva is helping me rest a little on her own. She's now eating large enough meals that I only need to feed her every 4-6 hours. Unfortunately, Godiva has kind of reached a platueau. She's not getting worse, but she's not improving. I go to the vet again today. Hopefully we can figure something else out.

I have been trying to figure out a new housing situation for her. Since she's been eating more, she's also been getting more energy. Some times she wants to wonder around a little, but I tried a small wire 'sick cage' for her and she just rubbed her nose raw on the wires. I'm look into getting some type of aquarium for her, that I can line with fleece and maybe make a little fleece sac for her to sleep in smile I also would like to try and figure out a way to get a low lying bowl in there so she could possibly eat/drink on her own. She may never be 'normal' but if she can have a decent quality of life I will be pleased...

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I can definately see the point in that. I am like everyone else, I hope she makes a good enough recovery to just be happy!

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Originally Posted By: Leyna
Nicole, I can't thank you enough for your help with her. While I love Godiva dearly, caring for her round the clock can get very taxing. It's nice to know I can relax for a little while when you are around.


Awww....no problem! You know I always love helping out with precious little Godiva! smile All you have to do is ask and I'd be more then willing to help out more if you need it. wink I may have an aversion to needles, but if she ever gets past the point of needing sub-q fluids then she can have sleep-overs here to give you an entire day off, lol. tounge


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Round 3, ding, ding! I've been trying to post an update on Godiva all day, but my computer hasn't been cooperating, lol.

Yesterday, Godiva went back to the vet. She weighed in at 66 grams, which is 10 grams more than last Monday (Yay!). She's also much more active smile

Unfortunately, weight gain doesn't always mean improved health. Godiva is still very sick. My vet and I decided to try yet another antibiotic on Godiva. She got her first dose last night... This morning, I saw Godiva doing something I haven't seen her do in 13 days. She was curled up sleeping, like a normal glider. Over the last 2 weeks, she's been just sprawling out and sleeping where she lies. While it's not much, it gives me a glimmer of hope.

And last but not least, I've made 2 videos of Godiva. One is of her eating, the other is of her crawling around. I'm currently working on uploading those videos to photobucket. Attached is a picture of me feeding Godiva smile

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hug2 So glad to hear about her change of sleeping habits! Hoping she continues to improve...

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Oh how AWEsome! I can just imagine her all curled up heart
I can't wait to see the videos. And thanks for the pic, you know we ALL love to see pics! hug2


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Hi just read your post - try using a butter dish - one of those plastic ones - that's what Junior uses because of his bad left leg and it work's perfectly for him - just a thought

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Godiva was sleeping curled up again this evening. I also let her eat out her dinner out of a bowl. I have to hold her up to the bowl, but she raised and lowered her head so she could eat at her own pace. She's up to 5-6 cc's a meal. She's also maintaining hydration better. I'm still debating whether or not to sub-q her today. She didn't tent all day until about 6 PM and she's not tenting badly, but I don't want her to get dehydrated again, because we'll open a whole new can of worms, so I think I might give her a small dose of fluids here soon. Also, she is now lifting her head when she walks, where before she was kind of just crawling around with her head flat on the ground. And her head tilt seems to be improving, as does her head throwing. I think my vet and I might have hit the mark with this new med.

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GOOD GOING - I knew she'd be okay - keep up the good work -
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We aren't out of the woods yet, but she's improving smile

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That's awesome Leyna!


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Andy can even see an improvement... In his words, she's 'less floppy', lol.

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I hope everything gets better for you leyna!

Also just an FYI ac is opened again =] we miss you there

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I just read this thread for the first time.

Have you received the results from the C&S by chance?

Sending best wishes for a speedy recovery for Godiva.

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clap less floppy is good!! clap
I'm keeping up with your good work, Go Lady Godiva, Go!


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Originally Posted By: Leyna
Andy can even see an improvement... In his words, she's 'less floppy', lol.


roflmao

You know she's gotta be showing major improvement if even Andy notices! lol


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Judie, her C&S didn't show anything. Pretty much any bacteria she had in her should have been taken care of by the Clavamox. We are now treating her for meningitis... Today, I didn't see any more improvement. I don't really know how long this antibiotic will take to have a real effect though. The slight changes I've seen in her since I started the antibiotic seemed promising, but it's like she's stalled again frown

On a positive note, Godiva is eating enough at one feeding that I am down to 2-3 hand feedings a day. Also, I ended up not sub-qing her at all yesterday and she seems no worse for wear. I think she's finally eating enough to stay hydrated on her own.

Godiva has very soft stools today. That new antibiotic is obviously killing something, I just hope that includes whatever is making her ill in the first place...

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Here is a like to a video of Godiva heart

http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/LeynaJennings/Sugar%20Gliders/Godiva/?action=view&current=GodivaCrawling.flv

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awww... poor sweet baby - could these be seizures?


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That is her constant behavior, not a just a spell. I dealt with a glider with seizures for 3 years, so I am very familiar with seizures in gliders and I've never seen Godiva have a seizure.

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Oh My! cry
She looks like she is just constantly dizzy and trying to hang on...
Poor thing...

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It looks as though she is having neurological problems. Did they check her eyes?

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How heartbreaking. cry Little one appears to keep her head low to help keep herself balanced and seems to go in a circle due to the head tilt.

Have you given her a bath? You can use a bit of baby shampoo with a small amount of water while holding her. Lather her up... then rinse her off with warm water. Dry her in a hand towel and then put her down your shirt till she is dry. A soft toothbrush can be used to brush her fur.

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Godiva is nice and clean now. I used baby wipes and they've worked well. It's a lot easier to keep her clean now that she's not eating as frequently...

When that video was filmed, she wasn't able to hold her head up of the ground, she was too weak... She's gotten stronger since she's been eating more and can now lift her head, but she doesn't have much control over it, even still frown

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Poor baby! She looks rather pitiful in that video. I really hope she continues to improve. And again... GO MOMMY!!!!

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You are doing an awesome job Leyna. thumb I'm sure Godiva is aware of how much you love her. heart She is very blessed to have you. agree
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Leyna,
I know you have a lot on your plate. agree But I think we need an updated movie of Lady Godiva! The current one made us cry, and we'd all like to see her doing better! What do you think? Ok, just an update would do, if you could? hug2


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I don't know much about a sugar gliders behavior when they are sick but I do know alot about animals in general and it looks to me she is a strong baby. Most sick animals I have seen won't even try to walk around and I think it is a good thing for her to keep on moving - it lets you know she is not giving up...

Good job Leyna for keeping your head up and strong for your baby....

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it took a long time for cosmos to get better, & yours is so sick. there will be times of plateau-ing, & then things will change & get better, then back to plateau-ing again.
it will be a long process. i really hurt fo you.
with what you have been doing, she is sure to come out of everything w/flying colors.
i wanted to be abl to see the video, but i don't know how to get it to come up, do i copy everything down & get out of gc, & go to the search button, so the pic comes up?
learning this computer for me will be a work in progress(slow one @ that!!!) i would think for the rest of my life.
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How is Godiva doing today, Leyna?

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Godiva is very perky today. I've been feeding her out of a bowl for the last couple days. I have to hold her, so that she doesn't dive in and I have to hold the bowl at an angle so she can drink out of it, but it works a lot better than using a dropper... So much less messy.

This morning, Godiva was very... Perky. It was hard to get her to hold still to eat. Unfortunately, she still can't eat on her own because she just flounders in bowl.

Somebody asked about Godiva's eyes... My vet checked her eyes and said her pupils look constricted. I tried to check them today and they looked dilated and didn't appear to have a proper response to light, but it' hard to tell with the cremino eyes. They are hard to see.

It's getting to the point where it's hard to say if Godiva is improving. Physically, she looks awesome, but I can still tell that she's very ill. I will work on getting a new video of her for you guys. I've had a rough time uploading videos though.

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Glad to hear Godiva is doing better - even if she doesn't completely recover you can still love her forever - a handicapped animal (no matter which one) is a truely wonderful animal to love and cherish and they inturn will love and cherish you also - fond wish for her complete recovery

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You're right there is something special about the bond you form with special needs animals. My first cat was a blind barn cat named Sleepy and she was wonderful... I've also had several special needs gliders, including Smegal, my little seizure baby, and Vanity my little tri-pawed glider smile

Godiva is a very sweet glider, regardless of health. If she can get back to the point where she is leading a semi-normal life, I would be elated. I don't want to compromise Godiva's quality of life just because I am selfish though...

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Originally Posted By: Leyna
Godiva is a very sweet glider, regardless of health. If she can get back to the point where she is leading a semi-normal life, I would be elated. I don't want to compromise Godiva's quality of life just because I am selfish though...


I do pray that she might heal completely, but if is not God's Will... I pray that at least she might live an "almost normal life", in which I'm sure that with your love and care, it's "quality" is going to be a good one!

I know you are trying really hard Leyna, and I admire you for that.
There are a lot of prayers sent for her and for you. hug2

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I forgot to mention this... I talked to my vet and we decided it would be okay to introduce Godiva back to her mate Specter. Since he's already been exposed to Godiva, we aren't really putting him at any risk and we think it would do Godiva some good to have some glider company. I put them back together this morning and Specter was so happy to see his lady. Godiva seemed a little over whelmed by his show of affection, but didn't seem upset. If Specter has his way, Godiva will be spotless with in the hour smile

Also, some more good news! Godiva is up to 1 tablespoon per feeding. I also got her to take few bites of a pureed papaya mixed with yogurt and a couple bites of apple sauce. She still won't drink water, but at least she's starting to try different things... And, since she has been eating so much, I've been able to discontinue her sub-q fluids. I haven't had to sub-q her for 3 days now!

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Awww, I'm so glad to hear she has her mate back - I have to wonder if that might speed her recovery, love does wonders you know! Its absolutely wonderful that shes eating so much, I wonder if she would drink flavored pedialyte or juice? It might be like training wheels to get her back on water...

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Well, Godiva decided to drink some water today. It wasn't much, but it's a start...

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That is great news. clap What a strong baby! It's great that she has her mate back! Go Godiva!



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clap Progress is being made! That is awesome! hug2

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OH, Lady Godiva I am glad to read you are doing better! I was away for a little bit, and now I see you are improving! Yippeee!!!! hug2


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Re: Lady Godiva... [Re: SariYappa] #674964
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I want to stress yet again, Godiva's neurological condition is not improving. Her main improvements are due to her increased appetite. She is getting physically stronger, but it's actually making things more difficult for both her and myself. She's getting very hard to hand feed because she won't hold still, but she can't/won't eat on her own, she just kind of flops around in her food. Also, she's getting too active for her Kritter Keeper, but she can't be in a wire cage because she rams her head into the bars and rubs her nose/face raw. I put her back with Specter in hopes that maybe he would help her live a normal life, maybe leading her to food, help her groom, etc.

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Ohhhhhhhhh frown I stand corrected. I'm so sorry. At this point, we have to celebrate even the smallest progression though. She drank some water! She got to spend time with her honey! She's getting stronger! (blessing in discuise)...

hug2 Hang in there Leyna! hug2


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~sigh~ I'm kind of flustered as to what to do about Specter too. I had him with Godiva in the Kritter Keeper during the day, but he wanted out when it was time to wake up. It's way to small for an active/healthy glider, but Godiva can't be in a regular cage. So, I don't know what I'm going to do now. Specter was so happy to be back with Godiva at first, but I don't think he understands that she can't run around and play like he can... It breaks my heart to see him so frustrated and confused by her behavior.

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Leyna, could you get them a 65 gal rept to live in?

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Maybe even if they can't be together all night they could have "playtime together" (although I know Godiva can't go far) and perhaps sleep together? And then just have different adjacent cages at night? I was able to make this work pretty well for my 2 gliders a while back when they were fighting all the time.

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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: LSardou] #675086
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hug2 to you Leyna and Godiva. She is in my prayers. You're doing everything you can for her.


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Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
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Lynsie, you mentioned getting a rept. Honestly, I don't think a rept would be a suitable enclosure for Godiva at this point in time. She tends to bury her nose/head in corners and I'm afraid she would hurt herself some how on the poles of a rept. Also, she has been attempting to climb, but due to her lack of coordination, is constantly falling. Even if I laid a rept on it's side, I fear an 18 inch fall may be too much for her brain at this point in time. If Specter is willing to sleep with Godiva during the day, I will continue to let him. I think it does them both some good....

The longer this goes on, the more I'm starting to believe that Godiva might of had a stroke. A stroke would explain the bulk of her symptoms, as well as her lack of response to treatment. If she did in deed have a stroke, now a whole new set of questions come in to play. Why would such a young animal have a stroke? What might have triggered it? Can she be rehabilitated and possibly live a semi-normal life? The list goes on...

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What will this baby must have! And YEAH she is getting to spend time with Specter and is drinking a bit of water!!!!! Keep up the good work girl!

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I had wondered about Cessna having a stroke, since neither vet could really figure out what caused her symptoms at first. She just lost the ability to use her back legs, along with a lot of the feeling in them. I had similar problems with her trying to climb the bars of her "hospital cage" and ended up stringing a hammock across the top half of it at Val's suggestion. I found her sleeping in it one night before she had to go in her ecollar due to SM, and she stopped climbing after that.

How old is Godiva? I agree it would make sense for an older glider to have a stroke, but not a much younger one...though I have known people 20-30 years old who have had strokes, and if it can hit anyone of any age, it can probably do the same with gliders. Both vets I saw eventually agreed on spinal inflammation as the cause of Cessna's ailment. We are still not sure what caused it, though the fact that she was 12 was considered a big factor.

I wish you good luck...I will say a prayer for Godiva.

Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: sandbat] #675523
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Stroke is most often caused by high blood pressure, has your vet told you what might cause high blood pressure in a suggie? Also, I believe that diabetes can also cause a stroke, that may be a thought to toss around...did her blood tests reveal anything that may indicate diabetes? I think I read somewhere that you can actually have a stroke as a result of shock.

My aunt had a stroke in her twenties - she ended up with pneumonia because she had trouble swallowing & aspirated a lot of what she tried to swallow. If Godiva DID have a stroke, this is something you might want to watch for.

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Gina, when Godiva had her first blood test done, she was only 56 grams, weak, and anemic. I do believe her sugar was low, but we pretty much associated that with her lack of eating... Now that she's been eating more and has fattened up a little, I'm going to see if we can get another blood panel done. Also, I'm working on getting x-rays done to see if they can tell us anything.

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Well, I talked to my vet yesterday and she's recommending me to a specialist... I'm going to set up an appointment with them as soon as I can and see what they can do for Godiva. After talking to Dr. Renae we have pretty much concluded that if the specialist can't offer any help or suggestions, Godiva will most likely be euthanised. While the thought of it breaks my heart, it's obvious that Godiva will never have any quality of life in her state frown

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I'm so sorry Leyna hug2 I'm hoping the specialist will be able to help your little girl.

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Sending prayers and positive thoughts to you and Lady Godiva. I know she is in the best of care and couldn't be loved more. hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2


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Thanks you guys. I've been faced with some very hard decisions when it comes to Godiva. Some I would rather just not make, but I know I have to do what's best for her...

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????? I justed checked on Godiva and she's eating out of a bowl!!!! She's got both paws in there pretty much standing in her food, but she's eating totally on her own... I've been leaving a bowl of food in there for a while now on the off chance that she might decide to eat on her own and mostly, she's just been bumping into the bowl or wading threw the food, never eating it... I already hand fed her breakfast, but if she's eating on her own, maybe tomorrow I won't won't have to hand feed her. That would make tomorrow the first day in 3 weeks I didn't have to hand feed her! Could my little girl be getting better? I wonder what sparked the change? I haven't done anything different with her...

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OMG! Tears of joy for you and Lady Godiva! I think she's telling you she's getting better and wants to live a long time! Congratulations!!! Doing the happy dance!!!


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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: suggiemom1980] #676390
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Oh Leyna!!! I think she could tell you were thinking about having to put her down... she's saying "Mommy, I'm getting better!"... hug2

I hope this keeps up. Go Godiva, Go! dance


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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: SariYappa] #676415
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Yay Godiva! She just wants to show you that she's still got fight mama!

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YEAH clap !!!!! You go Godiva!!! Get you some grub!!! Maybe being reunited with her mate has given her the extra boost she needed!

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Well, the good news first... Godiva spent the night in a regular cage with Specter. I moved the nest box to the cage floor and also put the food dish on the floor so she could find it. This morning, the food bowl was empty and Specter and Godiva were sleeping in the nest box. Also, last night, I saw her perched on the edge of her food bowl eating a yogurt/apple sauce mix that I made for her and Specter. She was really wobbly, but she keeping her balance smile

And now for the not so good... Godiva still isn't grooming herself and looks like a total mess. Also, she has started this head bobbing/weaving thing. I don't quite know what to make of it. She does seem a lot more aware of her surroundings now, but at the same time, it's like they overwhelm her...

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Keep up the good work and positive thoughts...
We are counting on you getting better Lady Godiva! smile


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Leyna - just keep doing with her what you are. She seems to be improving. If she has had a stroke, there is a chance she will recover to a functional level, but it will take time. The vet couldn't really pinpoint what was wrong with her?


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When is she supposed to see the specialist?

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Jeannine, a friend of mine had a glider that had a stroke. She eventually healed to the point where she could lead a relatively normal life... So, I am hopeful.

Gina, my schedule and the specialist's schedule aren't matching up very well. As of now, I'm waiting on my work schedule for the first week of December to see if I can take her in then...

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I'll have Godiva in my thoughts Leyna. Hopefully the specialist will be able to shed some light on her condition.


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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #677498
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Well, yesterday was Godiva's first day without being hand fed. I was a little nervous at first because she wouldn't eat in front of me. But I kept checking on her and she seemed nice and alert and not lethargic, so I decided to let her go. Well, by morning, she had a nice full belly, so she definitely ate smile She must of also taken a swim in her dinner because she is a mess. But I could careless if she's messy, I'm just so happy she is eating on her own. She also seems to be getting a lot more coordinated. I've decided to take her back to my regular vet next week to see what she thinks before taking her to the specialist.

I also wanted to mention that Godiva has returned to her regular cage and her hubby. She is doing very well in her cage. She's climbing around slowly, but with little trouble. I've even seen her crawling around on some of her toys. I think she's more wondering than playing, but a lot of my toys are kind of unstable and move when she crawls on them and I think that will help with her coordination and muscular development. While I still don't know if she will ever be normal, I do believe now that she'll be able to at least live a comfortable life smile

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Thanks for the update Leyna! I sounds like your little Lady is moving forward with things. Hopefully the road ahead is smooth for her and whatever has been going on is starting to heal itself. I'm sure with her being back with her mate, makes a world of difference in her emotional state.
Many blessings and prayers.
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I am so glad that L. Godiva is well on her way to mending - you're a good mommy - here's hoping she keep's up the good
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I'm glad she's improving so well! Keeping her in my thoughts.

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clap Oh that is GREAT news! I know you'll keep us updated on the vet news. We all know that the snuggles with a loved one makes everything easier to handle... Now she has her hubby to make it easier for her! Go Lady Godiva, Go! smile


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That is wonderful she is feeding herself! Im glad your seeing improvement.


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Godiva is still eating on her own. It's such a relief to get a break from hand feeding her. I've finally been able to get some sleep, my other critters are getting more attention, and maybe, just maybe, I'll get around to cleaning the house now wink

I still don't think Godiva will ever be normal, but I do believe she will be able to maintain some quality of life now. She still had a lot of trouble with her coordination, for example, she fell in her food last night frown Also, she isn't grooming herself at all. Specter tries to help, but I'm probably going to have to continue giving her baths every couple days. She tolerates it well, so it's not a big deal.

Medication wise, everything for Godiva has been discontinued for now. It was when I stopped giving her antibiotics that the greatest improvement occurred??? We are looking into a special medicine that they give stroke victims. It helps the brain start to reestablish the lost connections. They also use it with some people after car accidents and things of the sort... Since it's a human grade med and never been used for animals (that we know of) before, we are trying to make sure it's safe before giving it to Godiva.

Other than that, there's not much new to report smile

Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: ] #678631
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Well, that's a HUGE report! Good luck with the new drug, it's a gamble, but it's worth it. Anything for our little fuzzies, right? I hope you continue to get some sleep!
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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: SariYappa] #679588
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Crossing fingers that the drug will be safe for Godiva! Will she still be seeing the specialist?

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Good luck with that new med. I hope it helps Godiva!


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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #679632
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Sending lots of prayers and good luck that this new medication will help Lady Godiva. hug2

Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: LSardou] #688681
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How is Lady Godiva doing? Update??


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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: SariYappa] #688687
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Lady Godiva passed away on November 29 frown I posted about it in Real Stories, but I forgot to update this post...

Now, I am waiting on her necropsy. Hopefully we'll get some answer as to what happened...

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I'm sooooo sorry... Now I feel stupid... I'll keep my eyes peeled for updates on the necropsy.
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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: SariYappa] #688694
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I'm so sorry!!! I hope you are able to find some answers. My heart goes out to you. Lady Godiva was a special glider and will always be loved and remembered.


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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: suggiemom1980] #688729
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Im hoping you get some answers on the necropsy Leyna! (((Hugs)))


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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #689188
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I'm so sorry Leyna hug2

Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: BeckiT] #696569
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oh, that is so sad for all that you did and she seemed to be getting better. i wanted to say this abt. strokes, i dont know if they have the correct equipment at a vets. hospital or not but here goes. my mother had a stroke, she was a vegetable could not walk, talk a complete sentence, wouldn't eat etc. all the doctors did was try to give her a different million meds-which did not improve her. i am a naturalist i have been studying for years on different ailments and natural remedies. i found out that a hyper baric oxygen chamber that they use for the bends, diabetic wounds, etc. also helps stroke victims, i had my mother go in for treatments and the result was unbelieveable. she had 4 treatments (she wouldnt get more she started getting claustaphobic) after the 1st treatment she could walk, eat and talk better, by the 4th she was her old self.
i am wondering if they have these little chambers for animals/sugar gliders. if my dogs had a stroke i would look into it. now that i am learning abt. the problems gliders can have i will pursue this subject with a vet.
very sorry abt. lady godiva. everybody have a good holiday. regards


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Re: Part 2: Lady Godiva [Re: hwh4ev] #696576
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further to my comment above a large group of neurologists are trying to get the insurance co. to pay for this as it works for strokes and any kind of diabetic neuropathy.
this was a little off the subject but i do wonder abt. these chambers for our little ones.

regards,
p.s. i just read all abt. lady godiva today and it is very upsetting, take care


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