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Re: pulling hair out? [Re: pappy1264] #595539
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SIGH He has managed to slip out of the shotglass collar and i had it tight. I was so afraid to look. He did not get the bandage off and did not go for his nuter sight yet but what if he keeps getting his collar off. Should i wrap his tummy just in case so he at least has to go thru the wrap?

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im going to show some pics. The first is when i noticed it. The skin is a grey with a bit of buising. The second is a few days later and the skin has turned black. The third is now. If u notice he has green and blue vet wrap on. The green u see there is no tail it is left longer so if he does get to it he will be getting to vet wrap only. A bit of the blue is also no tail under. They took about 2 - 2.5 inches off his tail. The part of the tail that is black in standard greys and brown in cinnis is all gone plue some of the grey part.

He is beinga butt which i can understand. I just syring fed him his dinner and some water. He is now sitting on my shoulder. It is the only way to calm him. He is in so much pain he actualy bit me. He has never bit me. I had to really get the collar tight to make it to where he cant get it off. I am keeping an eye on his nose to make sure it is not too tight but if i loosen it up at all he will be able to get it off. I think im in for a long night. I have a shirt that has a pouch that i will wear during the day and keep him in that. Im not going to let him and hunni have visitation for a few days till he is feeling better. I think he will be sleeping next to me tonight.

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Re: pulling hair out? [Re: ssdreamsicles] #595881
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Ok so it was a very long night. Gizmo sat on my chest most of the time. He seems to have calmed down alot so i hope that means the pain level is down. He will ride in my pouch shirt for the days so i can watch him all the time. When he is feeling better ill let hunni in for some visitations so i can watch them closely. She was barking for him last night and he responded so thats good.

Re: pulling hair out? [Re: ssdreamsicles] #595884
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Hopefully he is beginning to adjust. It is a lot for them to go through and it is unnatural for them to have all this on them. They don't understand it is to help them. Went through it with Timmy. Hate to keep saying 'it will get better' but it will a little each day. Prayers continue for you both!


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Re: pulling hair out? [Re: pappy1264] #596029
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He is so depressed. I hate seeing him this way. I know it is for his own good but it breaks my heart. I tried to give him a silk worm and he would not eat it. Im going to syrnge feed him some hpw here in a bit. Hubby is going to pick up some gateraid for me. He will have his bottle of water in his cage but im going to give him some gateraid to help him out a bit. Ill keep you updated on how he does. How long till he is acting at all like his old self? I know he will be mopy for a bit but i am concerned how mopy he is. His nose color is good and he is taking the food from the syringe.

Re: pulling hair out? [Re: ssdreamsicles] #596058
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Took Timmy about 10 days or so (course he was to have his sutures out at 14 days, and one day shy is when he chewed up his chest, so then we got to start all over again!) I know your pain all too well. It is hard, but keep your focus on him healing. If you can get any food into him (Timmy lived solely on cut up mealies and waxies and Ensure and some yogurt, which I switched around, not both at once), than try to keep telling yourself 'this too shall pass'. Each day he gets through is one less day he has to go through (I kept telling myself that!) Hang in there, he will heal and you will get through this together!!! I'm here if you need me!


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Re: pulling hair out? [Re: pappy1264] #596076
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He has 2 stitches in his tail that are supp to desalve but she said if they are still there in a week i can remove them. I was so shocked when he got out of the e collar and got the wrapping off his tail. I have had to take everything out of his cage but the water bottle and a hammik. He was using the pouch to get the collar off. I have had him in my shirt pouch on and off thru the day. He is not wanting to eat the silk worms and i wish i could get him some mealies. I found one pet store here that has them 12 for 99 cents and they are so tiny i doubt he will touch them. I am syringe feding him pureayed veggies, fruit smoothy, yogurt and some Hpw.

I belive he has 2 stitches in his nuter site as they did palm off.

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Re: pulling hair out? [Re: ssdreamsicles] #596078
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Can you get waxworms at the store near you? If so, buy them, and cut them in half (he won't have to hold them that way but also won't choke on them). Put them in a lid (I use lids off the baby food containers, I save them). Works perfect and it is just the right size. He could use the extra protein and fat right now (will help him heal and give him energy). I know cutting the worms is gross, but if it works, you gotta do what ya gotta do!


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Re: pulling hair out? [Re: pappy1264] #596081
07/24/08 07:16 PM
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No i have to order some. I just ran out so i need to get some more. He will eat those with no prob and i dont mind cutting them up lol. I actualy hold them for him and he bites it in half and then i give him the other half when he is done. He is still chowing down on yoggies and i know it should not be a everyday thing but i have been giving him a few a couple times a day. Im going to try to go on line and find some place that will ship them to me. He really misses his mealies.

You know i know he is hurting but i just dont like his depressedness. Im sure he will purk up a bit in a few days but i hate seeing him this way. He will sit on my shoulder and try to barry his head in my neck but the cone gets in the way. I have just been loving on him as much as i can in hopes of making him feel better. He is such a sweetheart.

Re: pulling hair out? [Re: ssdreamsicles] #596088
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Timmy did (and still does) that (trying to bury his head). That is how the headstand sleeping position started, him just trying to bury his face, since he couldn't curl up. It is so hard to see them this way and have no way to make them understand. You feel like 'you are doing this to them'. Just try to give him as much attention as you can. You will be closer than you ever were when this is finished and he is healed. As down as he is, he does know you are trying to help him. Put yourself in his place, and esp. with not understanding.....you can see where he is coming from. But it must be done and he will be ok. Grubco has waxies in. It cost me 12.00 for 500 plus shipping (I just got 5000 large mealies, plus 500 waxies, cost me about 62.00 with delivery. 30.00 of it was for delivery!) Double check with your store, they may be getting some in sooner then they could be delivered. Wish you were closer, I'd gladly give you some to tide you over!


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Re: pulling hair out? [Re: pappy1264] #596098
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I do feel a bit closer to him or rather feel like he is showing me more love. He is a loving glider anyways.

U are sweet! The prob with grubco is the last time i ordered in the summer they all came dead and there is no garentee. Im not even sure with the shortage that they would ship to me.

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See Part 1 here

Re: pulling hair out? [Re: ssdreamsicles] #596116
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Re: Pulling hair out - Part 2 [Re: LSardou] #598760
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Sorry i have not been on to update. I had a busy weekend.

Gizmo is doing well. He is still a bit depressed over wearing the collar and not being with hunni but i try to make up for that as much as i can. His nuter site and tail amputatin is healing well. He is off his pain meds but still on the antibiotics. I let him out of his collar once at night(I do not recomend this but gizmo is very bonded to me and lets me put it back on when its time)I sit right by the cage and allow him to eat and groom himself then after about 30 min of him doing this and me petting him i put it back on him. ever couple of days i have been wiping him down with a warm wet cloth as i cant belive how dirty he gets. When he is allowed to groom i always have my hand in the cage to stop any advances to his nuter site but so far he has left it alone and consentrated on other parts.

I tried to do a supervised visitation with hunni and him a day after the surgery to see if she could calm him down but she wanted to groom his nuter so i had to take her out. I said i would not let them back together for paly time till his nuter healed but i felt so bad for them that last night while he was having his time out of his collar i let her in his cage. I sat there for a hr just watching in aww there anticks. They ran and played and cuddled. He went right to work marking her in case she had forgotten she was his. After about a hr i took hunni back to her cage and put his collar back on. He seemed happy at this short visit. I will not be able to put them back untill he is fully healed in his tail. I am a bit worried about this as i saw a tail peeking out of hunni's pouch. It was dark so i dont think she has but mabey 2 weeks before they come oop. They are tiny again so i will have to supp feed them and i guess be daddy for gizmo. I am glad he finaly got the nuter as i could not bare for hunni to have joeys this small again. At least one of these joeys mabey both will be staying with mommy and daddy as a colony.

Gizmo has adjusted to sleeping on the hammik. He is not happy about it but it must be done as he trys to use the pouch as a way to get the collar off.

His neck area where the collar had rubbed him raw is healing. It has no fur but it is healed. I put more mole skin on the collar to help pad it a bit.


Re: Pulling hair out - Part 2 [Re: ssdreamsicles] #598850
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Awwww, I am glad they got some lovin' time together. It helps them to know their partner is still there! He sounds like he is doing well. Each day will get easier. Hang in there......


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Re: Pulling hair out - Part 2 [Re: pappy1264] #598894
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Yea they were so happy but at the end i think hunni was trying to get away from his over baringness lol. He would not stop holding her down and marking her lol. He was even crawling on her back.

How long till he stops the marking? How long till his glands dry up and the bald spots go away?

He is doing better and each day does get easyer.

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Well, mine took about a month usually, but Timmy was neutered 7+ weeks ago and his bald spot is still good sized and he was rubbing Gidget like crazy last night for their little visit...lol


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Re: Pulling hair out - Part 2 [Re: pappy1264] #599121
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lol thats what gizmo was going. Poor hunni was just looking at me like i was crazy to have put her in his cage!!

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