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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: Dani4Hedgies] #816820
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I dont remember what the recipe was, but I heard awhile back something that was called glider crack. That suggies loved it! Maybe someone that remembers what glider crack was will come along to help you out David.

It sounds like Nicodemus is doing better. Great job!


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: Sherri] #816827
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I found that recipe and I'm going to try it tomorrow.


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #816845
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Good luck! I hope Nicodemus likes his glider crack. I've never had to use it, thankfully.


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: Sherri] #819449
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Hey David how's Nicodemus' coming along?
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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: ozzi] #819932
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he's active but his eyes are still a concern. I see some kind of a, it's not a crust but some clear matter in his eyes. We're going to go back to the vet and have it looked at. I had to stop giving the oxycycline it has changed color so I'm worried about it.

So, I'm not to sure about how he's doing.


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #819997
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We will be praying for Nicodemus' angel
Please let us know how the vet visit goes....
Pat, Boo-Boo, and BJ angel


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: Dani4Hedgies] #822751
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I went to the vet today, I suspected it and had it checked for and i was right, Giardia. Bad too, hopefully this is why the weight loss. So now it's Flagyl for 5 twice daily for 10 days, oh I'm going to have so much fun..... I wonder how many times i will get bit. If this turns out not to fix the the problem, it's ex-rays and blood tests.


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Re: Nicodemus' unkown facial swelling [Re: DavidW] #822760
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Oh, poor baby! I hope this will take care of him, once and for all! Sending prayers your way!!!


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Nicodemus...... #832601
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I got him to the vet today.

they are doing a bacterial culture and sensitivity and fecal centrifugation and giardia testing at an outside lab. I should have results for the centrifugation and giardia by Monday and the culture by Wednesday.

One positive note he has gained 10 grams since his last visit on the 15 of last month.

I'll keep everyone posted on the results as soon as i get them.


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #832638
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Good I'm glad to hear hes doing better update us when test are done.

Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #832644
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dance Come on Nicodemus dance


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: ozzi] #833830
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I got the first of the results in today!
no giardia or other parasites!!

I was told they didn't even find cysts!!
If this is correct that means it is 100% eradicated
now i just hope they didn't get it from something here....

I hope the cultures will show whats going on.


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #833854
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That is awesome David!!!!
Have a GREAT weekend thumb
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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: ozzi] #833858
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That's awesome news!!! smile

Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: ] #833890
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Woo Hoo Great News!


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: Feather] #834035
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Way to go Nicodemus!


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: Bozeman] #836270
09/10/09 08:13 PM
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the rest of the report is in.........

It's Salmonella.

Now I know why he's lost so much weight. I just got the e-mailed lab results from the vet. I'm going to get the meds tomorrow, I bet it's going to be baytril. I even asked the vet if he would put them on a round baytril before we did the culturing.

Ideas on how they got it?
everything food wise is washed before i freeze it.
I don't give them chicken. I rarely eat it myself
The eggs i use in their hpw are cooked thoroughly.

I think that about cover the way to get it right?

Here's a copy of the lab results.

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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #836281
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Actually no David, that doesn't cover it. If you aren't using the shell of the eggs, or farm fresh eggs there is very little chance of it coming from eggs anyway. A lot of produce has been recalled in recent years for salmonella, mostly stuff that comes from Mexico. Do you or anyone you are around a lot have any reptiles? What about birds?

That bites as far as having to do antibiotics again. But at least now you have an answer and it CAN be treated! Hope Nic gets better fast!

Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: ] #836285
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no birds, no reptiles, no shells, but the produce maybe we live so close to Mexico. I've not seen any recalls tho, and why just one cage and not both?


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #836301
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Well I hope they can get Nicodemus the proper treatment now and get him all better!!!

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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: ozzi] #836326
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Well Now you have the diagnosis and treatment...............good job! Hope he gets well soon. Did you ask your vet how he could have gotten it???? Did he have it when you got him and maybe it manifested itself from the stress of the trip to the SGGA????


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: Cora] #836329
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I don't think he came with it i've had him for 6 months. Besides I'm pretty sure if he had it when i got him the stress from re-homing would have set it off, right?
I haven't got to talk to the vet, that's tomorrow hopefully i can talk to him and not just one of the techs.....


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #836332
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hmmmmmmmmmmm I dunno...........what I do know is YOU ARE the customer and certainly have the right to ask to talk with the vet. wink


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: Cora] #836338
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sometimes I wonder about that with Dr. Jordan. He knows his stuff, but ask anyone that has been to him. here's a quote for someone else that's used him before - "He prefers to gas them in the back and do the exam back there"


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #836342
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Yea well thats OK I guess......... but afterward HE should talk with you..............not a tech................jmo! Or at least by phone if test results are being discussed. My vet always talks with/calls me himself.............as well as with my dog/cat vets too.


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: Cora] #836344
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I know what you mean, he's the only vet i know like this, my cats vet is super awesome about all of this but she doesn't know any thing about gliders. I'm thinking about going elsewhere after all this is behind us, but for now I'll just work with him. or rather his techs....


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #836672
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I was right it's Baytril all around, and i was right nobody but the techs at the vets office today shakehead Well at least we should be on the road to recovery dance


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #836679
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I dunno if you farm your own mealies or where you get them but the skim milk I was using in my mealie farm bedding was recalled for possible salmonella comtamination... so my mealie farm never even got off the ground! $100 down the tubes and I would have had tons of mealies by now instead of a stinky dead mealie crate that I am dreading cleaning sitting outside tant



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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: SugareeErin] #836689
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I tried farming them but i never got anywhere with it, I didn't use any powdered milk anyways. I've been getting them from Fluker Farms cause they are super close to me but they only offer the mediums. I switched to Grubco mighty mealies, just have to pay through the nose for shipping.

I don't envy you, I'd just throw the whole stinking mess out.


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Re: Nicodemus...... [Re: DavidW] #837129
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lol I wanted to save the container, as long as I disinfect that it will be fine. I am going to give it another shot because I am spending way to much $$$ on mealies these days with the shortage.



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