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Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: ] #797451
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From what I have learned the 2 anesthesias used for gliders are Isoflurin, and Sevoflurane. One vet uses one, the other uses the other. Sevo is supposed to be very expensive. Which one is better I would get 10 different opinions on, including the vets. On the 1st estimate the vet estimated 30 minutes of anesthesia. I do not have w written estimate from the latest vet but will speak to her Wednesday.
Thank you all for all the prayers.

Pat, Boo-Boo, and BJ angel


Pat
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Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: ozzi] #797458
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My Pharmacy years long past shakehead however, in my opinion the Isoflurin would be the safest as far as I'm concerned. I read up on the Sevoflurane when it first came out on the market. Isoflurin has less cardiovascular effects. It also has been used for many years whereas Sevoflurane has been used for about 8 years (roughly).

Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: LSardou] #797469
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Thanks Linda,
The new vet tried Sevo for a while but there was no big difference to justify how expensive it is as opposed to Iso.

Pat


Pat
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Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge".
I miss you gangel Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel gangel
Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: ozzi] #797473
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Depending on the buffers, and of course since it is considered a 'trial', the cost would be higher.

Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: LSardou] #797814
06/23/09 02:56 PM
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Isoflurin is the only one my vet uses. Peanut was under 3 times, twice for leg amputation and did very well. Badge has had gum surgery 4 times, I have had many boys neutered also. None of my gliders had any problems whatsoever with the Isoflurin and all woke up normal, no fighting, trying to SM or anything. Poss was the only one who woke up and literally jumped off of the operating table and took off running full speed! (It's funny now, lol)

Pat, you are doing the right thing no matter what you do. We only know so much about these precious little ones and are forced at times to go with our gut instinct when it comes to others' knowledge and our vets. I am so happy you decided not to have the original surgery, I had a bad feeling about it. Boo Boo will do well, look at who he has for HIS daddy!!!! smile

HUGS


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Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: SugarBlossoms] #797819
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None of my gliders were given a blood draw to test for any anethesia. Peanut was too weak and needed antibiotics and sub-q for 2 days before the surgery. Dr. Williams took her home with her to do that before the surgery was done.

They all have done fine. smile


Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: josefine] #797830
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That is the anesthesia that is used on my gliders on a regular basis. They are around 6 and 7 years. Out of all the ones that have gone under only one had some problems and they were easily corrected if the problem is watched for. I originally discoverd the problem when he vomited after being neutered, I mean projectile vomiting. That particular vet did not think much of it, but checked him over just the same and he said he was OK. To make a long story short I ended up doing mounth to mouth/snout as I drove back to the vet. So now he is monitored by my new vet closely for a couple of hours when he goes under for blood work. I hope your glider does not have cancer. Mine do. There is chinese herbal meds used for cancer pt. And also my vet oncologist has found a chemo drug she believes will not be harmful to the gliders. My glider Geo went through major exploratoty surgery where they took out not only the mass, but a portion of his gall bladder and liver has well. It has been a month and he appears to be doing well. He is as the vet right now having blood work, and depending on the results we either stay with the herbs and other meds he is on or we add chemo to the mix. Don't give up they are amazingly strong animals and there are possible treatments. Take care and God be with you and your glider.

Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: kittybaran] #798343
06/24/09 03:01 PM
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Boo-Boo will be getting his blood work done tomorrow morning at 10:30.
I will let everyone know how it goes when we get back angel
Pat


Pat
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Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge".
I miss you gangel Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel gangel
Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: ozzi] #798349
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Boo-Boo is going to be alright ozzi! My thoughts and prayers will be with you both. hug2

Boo-Boo, you be a good boy for your daddy!!!! hug2

Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: LSardou] #798353
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Prayers by my family for your family.
Hugs hugs hugs


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Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: JillMarie] #798373
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Just remember to try to be relaxed so that he can be a good boy for this doctor too.

Still praying for you and the Boo Man. Tell BJ we all still love him too!

Thank you Pat for "sharing" your boys!


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Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: JillMarie] #798376
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I've been thinking about Boo-Boo. I'm hoping it all comes back fine. Let us know.


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Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: kittybaran] #798396
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Originally Posted By: kittybaran
I hope your glider does not have cancer. Mine do. There is chinese herbal meds used for cancer pt. And also my vet oncologist has found a chemo drug she believes will not be harmful to the gliders. My glider Geo went through major exploratoty surgery where they took out not only the mass, but a portion of his gall bladder and liver has well. It has been a month and he appears to be doing well. He is as the vet right now having blood work, and depending on the results we either stay with the herbs and other meds he is on or we add chemo to the mix. Don't give up they are amazingly strong animals and there are possible treatments. Take care and God be with you and your glider.


Kitty, please let us know who your vet is! Do you have another post about this? If not, would you mind making one? I am very interested about treatment your gliders are receiving for cancer! Any information is valuable for these precious little ones as we still have much to learn about them! Thank you in advance!!


Keeper of Handprints on my Heart, You left your Footprints on my soul.
My precious loves that left to quickly, Peanut, Katie
Isabella, Kiwi, Bonnie and Monroe.

Spread your wings and glide free of pain,
Until the day I see you again.

God speed my precious angels. I love you. Mama.
Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: SugarBlossoms] #798401
06/24/09 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: SugarBlossoms
Originally Posted By: kittybaran
I hope your glider does not have cancer. Mine do. There is chinese herbal meds used for cancer pt. And also my vet oncologist has found a chemo drug she believes will not be harmful to the gliders. My glider Geo went through major exploratoty surgery where they took out not only the mass, but a portion of his gall bladder and liver has well. It has been a month and he appears to be doing well. He is as the vet right now having blood work, and depending on the results we either stay with the herbs and other meds he is on or we add chemo to the mix. Don't give up they are amazingly strong animals and there are possible treatments. Take care and God be with you and your glider.


Kitty, please let us know who your vet is! Do you have another post about this? If not, would you mind making one? I am very interested about treatment your gliders are receiving for cancer! Any information is valuable for these precious little ones as we still have much to learn about them! Thank you in advance!!
Kitty lives here in Phoenix too, so there's a bonus Pat!!!

hug2


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Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: ozzi] #798408
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The Iso is what most vets use on Greyhounds - so I'd go with the Iso - it is less invasive -

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Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: ] #798410
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I will wait to hear about Boo's blood work. Give him my love and kisses!


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Re: Need help and prayers for Boo-Boo [Re: CharmedSuggies] #798605
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Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #798672
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Somehow I missed this post. hug2 to you and boo boo. He will be in my thoughts and prayers!! heart

Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: ] #798745
06/25/09 12:36 PM
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VERY VERY positive thoughts for you & BooBoo....

St. Francis of Assisi, if you could grace Ozzi & Booboo with your presence....in your spare time of watching over Mojo....this soul would be most grateful.

Amen.


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Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: minkasmom] #798817
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We just got in from the vet and they did a blood draw. Boo handled the anesthesia very well although his breathing was pretty slow going. The DR said usually when they are under for a neuter they breath a littler huffier. Unfortunately Boo did not give up much blood so she will work with what she has, maybe have to get more. While Boo was under and relaxed the DR was able to feel Boo's abdominal and liver ares. She felt that the liver is somewhat enlarged. Took x-rays. There appears to be little lumpy things in the intestinal area. The DR is going top consult with a DR at the University of Colorado for another opinion as to what might be going on. Have to wait on the blood work.
Boo was a charm and just hung out on the DR's chest :O)
So, nothing conclusive right now but the Boo man is home and just had some birthday mealies and is content to go back to bed. Poked, prodded, gassed on your birthday. That's no fun!!! hug2


Pat
You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown

Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge".
I miss you gangel Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel gangel
Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: ozzi] #798822
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hug2 I was sure hoping for more encouraging news ozzi. I pray that whatever they saw is benign cysts. Hopefully they will have been able to get the right amount of blood to complete these tests.

Give BooBoo many many hugs and sweet kisses from all of us.

Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: LSardou] #798842
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Thanks Linda. I am sending out nothing but positive energy to Boo. I am not stressing, and I am keeping everything in perspective. angel
He is getting lots of love and prayers sent his way, I know that and appreciate it more than you all know. angel
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Pat


Pat
You have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you.....Unknown

Rest in Peace our little sweet friends that have crossed over the "Rainbow Bridge".
I miss you gangel Boo-Boo, Lucy, BJ, and Fivel gangel
Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: ozzi] #798852
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hug2 Many prayers for Boo Boo! hug2



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Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: sugarlope] #798854
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I sure hope every thing goes okay for Boo-Boo - Ozzie try not to stress so Boo doesn't feel it - you know how animals get when they know their daddy is upset - My prayers are with you and Boo-Boo

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Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: ] #798860
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Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: vagraphix] #798874
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All our thoughts are with you. The Boo man will be just fine. thumb


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You all have extra prayers coming your way from here in Florida!


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Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: LabNGliderMom] #798985
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Aww what a lame birthday gift... I hope everythign goes well for him!

Re: Help and prayers for Boo-Boo - Part 2 [Re: ] #798998
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Prayers going out all is fine. Please keep us posted Pat. Give the Boo man kisses.


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