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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: ] #695941
12/19/08 12:20 PM
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Emailed thenaturesway.com and received an e-mail response that said we should be feeding normal (medium) mealworms.

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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: princessmegi] #696598
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That is interesting. I wonder if they treat their "large" size as well.


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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #696722
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I have a question - are superworms a different strain of mealworms, or are they a different species altogether?

Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: sandbat] #696749
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Superworms and mealworms are different species of darkling beetles;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mealworm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superworm


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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: sugarlope] #696756
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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #698125
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So afer reading all of this I am now concened myself I should feed my suggie mealworms????

Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: ] #698127
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Regular mealworms (medium/large) aren't the concern, it's the mighty/giants that are in question.


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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #703509
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Ok so are giant mealies safe for gliders, or should we just stick to the regular mealies?

Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: ] #703510
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Ok never mind some one right above just answered my question smile

Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: ] #703527
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I use giant and extra large mealies for my sweeties. They usually don't have any problems. Occasionaly you might see a glider pick one up the wrong way and it might flick it's hand cause the mealie pinched them. But normally, no problems. I DO pinch off their heads if I feed them to my joeys.


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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: Suggiegramma] #703553
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I always pinch the head of the super worms so they can't bite.


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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: Teresa] #705328
01/04/09 01:38 AM
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All this bug talk is kind of leaving me a little confused:

I went and got my little guy mealworms (by BugCo) from Petco.. Those are ok, right? How many should I feed him and how often?


EDIT:
I also bought Superworms because I didn't know which. I was planning on returning them tomorrow, but apperantly they are safe - as long as you pinch the heads, correct? confused

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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: ] #705356
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LOL Jessica... I didn't know just how open you would be to pinching off heads when we spoke on the phone earlier. I couldn't do it. YUCK! LOL But if you feel comfortable, you go right ahead. Yes, people do feed supers to their gliders, but only one a day since they are so huge! My problem with the supers and mighties is that I keep hearing they are fed growth hormones ot get them so big, and I can't imagine that being good for the gliders.

Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: ] #705664
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Superworms are a different species of worm (Zophobas morio) and are naturally that large. They are not fed the growth hormones.

Any mealies though that are labeled "Giant" or "Mighty" ARE fed growth hormones but are the same species as the smaller guys (Tenebrio molitor).

They can also be fed/sprayed with a pesticide that breaks their life cycle and is supposed to prevent morphing (making the BIG mealies). Or depending on the chemical used it can also break the life cycle by extending the "mealie" phase (causing the REALLY big mealies) AND causing sterility in the beetles. Both are supposed to effectively kill off mealies (originally designed for mealie infestations in chicken coops).

Some places list their Giants/Mighties as "not for feeding animals" due to the hormone treatment. These "hormones" or pesticides can cause liver damage. It was said earlier in this thread that one provider even did not recommend feeding their "large" size as well.


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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #705727
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Originally Posted By: MatchMakerMagic
It was said earlier in this thread that one provider even did not recommend feeding their "large" size as well.


And I wonder if this is because they begin "treatment" while the mealies are still smaller? Like the medium-large range?


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Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: MatchMakerMagic] #706049
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I stick with mediums,( and let them grow, and refrigerate them when they start to pupate), that way I have no reason to believe that they are treated. I would rather give them more smaller worms, than risk their health with "inhanced" worms.

I am in the beginnings of starting a mealie farm as well, so I can avoid all the worrying of who uses what pesticides/hormones/chemicals/feeds.. "Stress Free Feeding" lol




Re: Mighty or Giant Mealworms. How Safe? [Re: ScootersPet] #706469
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I definitely agree with ya there Amber! One of the benefits of having a farm.


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