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Re: Head bobbing? [Re: ] #6990
05/28/03 08:11 PM
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Lucy-

I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you know how much we all care about you. You are such a great part of glider central and we all love you. i hope that we in return can help you through this hard time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />Lots of LOVE to you and your gliders <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Re: Head bobbing? [Re: ] #6991
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Lucy,
My prayers are with you during this difficult time. Please know that we are all here for you and love you very much! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Re: Head bobbing? [Re: ] #6992
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I'm sorry, too. I was hoping for a miracle. Love and hugs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/upset.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" />

Re: Head bobbing? [Re: ] #6993
05/28/03 09:55 PM
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Oh, this is sooo sad. I am so sorry to have read this sad outcome. I guess we expected too much from Gladys. I like the thought that she waited for Lucy to come and say goodby. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Rest in Peace Gladys and prayers being sent to Lucy for comfort during this difficult time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" />

Re: Head bobbing? [Re: ] #6994
05/28/03 09:58 PM
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Donna, you bet we're having a necropsy done. My vet's convinced (as crittermom suggested above) that this was not just pneumonia. It might have been multi-organ failure, or primarily heart failure, or several other possibilities.

Thank you so much for all your condolences. Chey's gliders even got out of their cage tonight to type out a message to my gliders and Miss Lucy. It was so sweet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

I want you to know that while there's sadness, I had a year with her that I had no right to expect. Those of you who saw her at the SGGA fully expected her to die during that weekend, I know. And the fact that she recovered and lived another year is more than I had any right to expect, and I'm so grateful for it!

These are such remarkable animals. I don't know if this is a coincidence or not -- but my other family of gliders, which never EVER rise before 1:30 a.m., ALL came out tonight at 9:00 just to crawl around on me for about half an hour. I have no rational explanation for that, but it was so sweet and comforting. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Thanks again -- We should know the results of the gross necropsy tomorrow, though the labs and slides will take awhile to produce....



Re: Head bobbing? [Re: ] #6995
05/28/03 10:11 PM
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Oh, I am just so so sorry!!! I looked at her pics today, she was such a beautiful glider. I can't imagine your loss. My prayers are with you.
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Re: Head bobbing? [Re: Izzyandrileysmom] #6996
05/28/03 11:04 PM
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Lucy, I have said on the phone all I can say. My heart is broken for you and your glider family. But I agree with you that she had more time than we all thought she had. Even Gladys'. She is a TRUE PRINCESS and what a fighter.

She is with all her cousins and other glider now and will be there for all of us that in time may see our little one cross the bridge.

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Re: Head bobbing? [Re: Izzyandrileysmom] #6997
05/28/03 11:08 PM
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Lucy, I don't know what to say...my heart hurts so much for you and Reepicheep. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/upset.gif" alt="" /> Have no doubt Ms. Glady's waited for her mom to come kiss her goodbye. Rest in peace sweet Gladys.

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Re: Head bobbing? [Re: ] #6998
05/29/03 01:27 AM
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i really feel for you as i no if i lost a glider it would be like losing a child. i'm sure God will put aall of us who have lost gliders together one day when its our turn to join them. i no nothing can replace gladys on this earth but i would look for another gladys the second with similar traits.

Re: Head bobbing? [Re: ] #6999
05/29/03 03:49 AM
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[:"blue"]Lucy: I'm so sorry for your loss! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Please accept my condolences. You're in our thoughts & prayers! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Jeff, Laredo & Kira [/]

Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7000
05/29/03 11:20 PM
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Thanks again to all of you -- I'm overwhelmed by the support from my friends here and love you all!

Reepicheep left their pouch last night and won't go back to it. He clearly knows she's gone and isn't coming back. He seems a little bewildered and isn't terribly comforted by me, but I'm spending a lot of time with him hoping that eventually he will --

My vet sent me the preliminary gross necropsy results tonight. It will surprise no one who had seen her that a severely diseased liver was the most obvious finding. Additionally, she had a tremendous amount of peritoneal fluid, her lungs were largely collapsed with clear fluid in her chest, her heart was grossly dilated, and her gallbladder was distended. There's nothing we could have done for her. How she was so functional for so long is just beyond me, with this kind of internal damage occurring.

The next step will be finding out -- if possible -- what the nature of the liver damage was. That will take a few weeks, but I will update everybody when we find that out. At this point we can't rule out cancer, aflatoxins, or other kinds of liver damage. My guess is that the liver damage eventually took its toll and began causing the shutdown of other organs.

I feel a little self-indulgent posting all this, because it is therapeutic for me, but I also hope it's helpful to others down the road, once we know more.



Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7001
05/29/03 11:33 PM
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frostyangel.gif" alt="" /> Lucy, she truly was a fighter! With all of those things wrong, she put up a good fight. I am proud of her, she must have felt that it was okay to let go, I hope that Reepicheep is better soon.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7002
05/29/03 11:51 PM
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Lucy-you are truly an amazing woman and glider mom. Your strength, under these difficult circumstances, is incredible. Thank you for letting us be there with you as you've traveled this painful path-fighting to save Gladys and then letting her go. Sharing this experience with us will, no doubt, help save many gliders. And Gladys lives on in our hearts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Head bobbing? [Re: ] #7003
05/30/03 12:14 AM
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I am so sorry for your loss Lucy. I will be keeping you & Reepicheep in my thoughts.

Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7004
05/30/03 12:28 AM
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I am sorry for your loss lucy, I was out of the loop. I did not know that one of your gliders was severley ill. My condolences. I hope that her mate recovers from the loss as well.

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Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7005
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Lucy, I am so very sorry about Gladys <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/upset.gif" alt="" /> . My thoughts are w/ you and her mate. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7006
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Lucy, I am so sorry. I know how much you loved Gladys. She was my lil sydneys mommy and now they are both together.

Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7007
05/30/03 07:29 PM
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Lucy,
I am so sorry to hear about the loss of Gladys. Judie told me about it, and I finally came to the Health and Hygiene, and read the whole story. I will be keeping you and your glider family in my thoughts and prayers.

Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7008
05/30/03 08:00 PM
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Oh, Lucy... I am sooooo sorry to hear about your Gladys Myheart and thoughts and prayers go out to you and repchep(sp?) Feel free to call me .. any time . Sending a PM to you ..

Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7009
05/30/03 09:21 PM
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Lucy,
selfindulgent ? NOT at all !!!
You share, we care, yanno !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I think after all you've done for us here and Glider CENTRAL we all would agree that you deserve it.
Besides that we all care and feel for anyone that loses a glider.


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Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7010
05/30/03 09:28 PM
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Lucy,
I'm soooo very sorry to hear about your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and repicheep.


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Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7011
05/31/03 01:01 AM
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miss lucy,
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crying.gif" alt="" /> sniff, sniff, i sneeked out agin, pleez don't tell mommy. shed be reely mad at me!!!! but i wanted to tell you how sory we all is that you lost miss gladys. mommy siad she was reel sick and now shes over that rainbow bridge thingy like a glider heaven and that someday you will git to see her agin. n so will we!!!! pleez dont think you are self indiulgint or whatever it was u siad. cuz we are all here to hlp you thruohg this!!!

Ok, sweet pea, that's enough, you need to go back to Pez!!!
Sorry Lucy! I'm glad you got the necropsy results back! It's a true miracle and blessing that she lived as long as she did. Goes to show what good care and diet will do, as well as a LOT OF LOVE!!!! Please don't feel self-indulgent, you do what you need to to heal, the same as anyone else would! We all love you and you are in all our thoughts. So, take care of you and the others. Poor little Reepicheep is probably really missing her too!

Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7012
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You and your glider family are in me and my glider family's prayers. You are not self indulgent. It only shows how much you truly cared. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7013
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I'm so sorry to hear about the passing of Gladys. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> My thoughts are with you and Reepicheep. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7014
05/31/03 09:16 AM
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So sorry, Lucy.


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Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7015
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Lucy, How is Reepicheep doing? His loss is just so great...how his little heart must ache. I am just so, so sorry this happened to your family. My heart just hurts so much for you.

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I'm glad you posted the results of the necropsy. Dr. Bruce is going to be taking a second look at Dawn's slides. She was full of peritoneal fluid, too, but it was not clear. I'm interested if ultimately there may be something we can all learn from our sad experiences.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/upset.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/littleglider.gif" alt="" />

Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7017
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Thanks again to all of you. Reepicheep is doing okay. He got out and played last night/this morning, and is eating well.

I agree, Linda, that it's important to get these necropsies and lab reports to find out what it is that's killing our gliders. I don't know how old Dawn was, but I'm really worried about the 2-3 year age of so many glider deaths. In fact, I think there are probably a series of little polls we could do about this --

Frankly, I think heredity really matters here, too. All the more reason to know about the ancestory of our gliders, if possible.



Re: Gladys' necropsy [Re: ] #7018
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Oh Lucy! I haven't been on here all weekend and your story brought tears to my eyes and left a lump in my throat. I am so sorry. My deepest and sincerest sympathies. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" />

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Dear Lucy,

You don't know me, but I've learned a lot about you and your little Gladys, just through this post.

I've learned that Gladys was a fighter and a beautiful glider who was meant to be a part of your family. And I have learned you too are a fighter who fiercely loves her furkid family and watches over them with much love in your heart...

It is not self indulgent, but educational when you post- for the newbie Glider lovers like myself to the old pros out there as well. Since I believe most of us have probably lost a furbaby to the Rainbow Bridge at one time or another, we all grieve with you. I feel a hollowness in the pit of my stomach thinking of you kissing your little girl and then her letting go of her battle for life... You two were meant for one another.

I'm so sorry for your loss <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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