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The Genetic Mutation of Curley Tail Gliders ? #52265
07/27/05 11:13 PM
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Can anyone tell me the specifics of the genetics of curley tail gliders. I've sort of done an informal poll and it seems that maybe 3 of us have gliders that have tails which remain in a curl...always. Scientifically or breeding wise, I'd like to know more about the trait. So, if anyone can lend a brain cell or two, I be most appreciative! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: The Genetic Mutation of Curley Tail Gliders ? [Re: ] #52266
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i had a little rescue girl that had her tail constantly flipped up over her head...i'll dig up a pic.

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Re: The Genetic Mutation of Curley Tail Gliders ? [Re: ] #52267
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I found this link that explains curly tails in animals. It's actually quite interesting...

http://www.ijdb.ehu.es/abstract.julio98/42_5_1.htm

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This is a behavior normal to sugar gliders during breeding and, I have observed all of my breeding females exhibit this behavior though not in a continual manner, as such this might not be a spinal defect at all it might be a severly stressed glider or a glider with a hormonal imbalence. But I am not a vet and I have no knowldege of marsupials or any animal who uses its tail to carry debris having been studied. This could be a case where the mouse modle cannot be applied to sugar gliders.

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awwww...how precious! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Thanks, Leyna for the abstract. Though it gives a starting point, I agree with Ushuaia. I'm just not sure that can be related to a marsupial...Hmmm...maybe someone else will come along with some more points of reference. Thank you both for your thoughts.
Jen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Actually, if you look, most every mammal with a tail will display the trait of a curled tail, including, but not limited to: cats, dogs, horses, rats, and mice. As with other animals, there is a very strong chance that a genetic abnormality is the reason that a few gliders are displaying the curled tail trait. I personally have never owned a glider with a curled tail, so I can't speak from experience though. Also, unlike Ushuaia, my gliders rarely curl their tail, even when excited or mating. I think I've seen the behvior half a dozen times in the whole 4 years I've owned gliders. I know at least 3 of my gliders can curl their tails, but the others never have (that I've seen). There is a possibility that the ability to curl their tails is gentic as well, much like with people and the ability to curl their tounges...

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The reason gliders curl their tails is to carry debris to the nest this is a very common behavior in the wild and is a behavior probably not dirrectly linked to short gene sequence.

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Considering not glider curls it tail, there is probably some gentic influance there, but then again, every thing is genetic on some level.

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My straight tail gliders will curl their tails at will or at a stimulus. For instance, if I play with Widget's normally straight tail, she will wrap it around my finger (so cute!) Once again, very interesting feedback everybody! Thanks!

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See, not all of my gliders can curl their tails. Some of them can arch their tails, but not curl them...

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I have one females who's tail is in a constant arch. If she is out and about the cage, it is up and over her head at any given time, I noticed it the day I brought her home and this has never changed about her.

Re: The Genetic Mutation of Curley Tail Gliders ? [Re: lillysmomma] #52277
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I have 2 males that have a constant curl in their tails. Neither of them are related, but both of their tails are curled up as tight as can be just like a little Pug dog's tail at all times. I've always heard it was a sign of excitability, which does seem to be the case with these two in particular...LOL. They're two very playful little guys.


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lol, Well its not the case with Mini, she is never excited only sometimes for food. I think her tail is curl cuz in her past life she was a Chameleon she also moves just like one its very cute.

Re: The Genetic Mutation of Curley Tail Gliders ? [Re: ] #52279
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My little BEW Sesamie has a tightly curled tail that rolls up over her back. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> She certainly is not stressed or ill. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" /> So far, none of her babies seem to exhibit this trait.

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Not yet Judie. I have been talking to Fantasia about her mommy's curl tail. She needs to have one just like her mommy does. Does her daddy tail curl over his back? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif" alt="" />

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Re: The Genetic Mutation of Curley Tail Gliders ? [Re: ] #52281
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Whisper holds his tail high and sort of over his back...but it does not coil like a "tight spring" like Sesamie's does. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/heartpump.gif" alt="" /> Of all my gliders... only Sesamie has such a tail. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/muchlove.gif" alt="" />

Re: The Genetic Mutation of Curley Tail Gliders ? [Re: ] #52282
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Judie, could you post a pic of your curly-tail? I'm curious if this is similar to double-jointedness in people (I have only one with an extreme tail). I have double-jointed thumbs, my older son, all his fingers and elbows.

Here's a pic of my Troi..my curly tail "extreme" girl...

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Jen...that picture is so cute <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" /> Troi blends in so well with your carpet, you could almost play "Wheres Troi"!!!


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