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Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum #1306672
11/22/12 02:45 AM
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At vet ER bubbles had another abcess on her chlocea area and been on antibiotics and I Just now discovered she had a huge hole right by her chlocea I can see her inside !!!!!! I'm so scared and sick to my stomach I pray this ER knows what they are doing about gliders please pray for her !!! How could this happen??? Either her or the other glider must have chewed her open!!! But I saw no blood anywhere


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306673
11/22/12 02:58 AM
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Oh my goodness.
I am so sorry. I hope that you can find help for your little one.
That sounds scary. Please let us know how it goes!


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306676
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Oh gosh...I hope everything works out just fine frown


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306678
11/22/12 03:20 AM
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Going into emergency surgery right now they said they can't promise anything and that she might not make it she said gliders font do well with anesthesia ??? Is that true I don't trust her I have a feeling she know not much about gliders but have no Choice at 230 am omg


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306679
11/22/12 03:26 AM
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Gliders do well with isoflorine gas. They just have to be watched is all. I've had about 60 or so gliders neutered, all have been put under with isoflorine gas.


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306682
11/22/12 03:39 AM
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Saying a prayer for little Bubbles that she pulls through and makes a quick recovery ..


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306688
11/22/12 04:48 AM
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I took her back home and we discussed I bring her bsck in tomorrow when dr lightfoots resident vet is there who treats gliders this vet tonight never did surgery on one and it scared me so I decided to bring bubbles back tomorrow 3 pm when resident comes in ! Dr lightfoot suposedly Knows a lot about gliders so the tech set even so she isn't in her resident is very good with them also but it needs to be fixed for sure because she said something it open to her abdominal cavity from the bottom!! The gap is about one centimeter long on the side of her anus its gross to say the least but no blood it's so weird never seen anything like this

Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Anonymous] #1306693
11/22/12 05:43 AM
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While your glider is at the vet's tomorrow... have him do a C&S (Culture and Sensitivity) to determine wither or not the appropate med is being administered. "Repeat abcesses" are usually because the correct med is not being given or the glider was not on the medication long enough to kill all of the bacteria.

Sending "Get Well Wishes" for a speedy recovery.

Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306697
11/22/12 06:53 AM
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You've received some great advice; I'm going to go ahead and move this to Health & Hygiene for you so you will get some more exposure.


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306706
11/22/12 09:11 AM
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They did the Culture before and that's how they determined the meds my reg vet told me even last Monday we leave her on it longer this time than in June and the actual abscess had responded to the meds within a few days that part went down do that's why I was sooo surprised last night to find this gap in her abdomen


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306707
11/22/12 09:16 AM
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I just checker her cage she ate about five kennels of corn last night didn't touch her blended diet or fruit and she did poop not sure if she drank she is in her pouch sleeping she hasn't been out too much poor baby this breaks my heart I hope all goes well today I take her back in to emergency vet at three pm. It's going to cost me $900 ugh but I just at least pray she makes it interesting when I bought my first glider ( bubbles is a rescue ) A known mass breeder had told me they NEVER need a vet isn't that something? I wonder how many gliders die because of that statement ! Anyhow wish us luck


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306720
11/22/12 10:24 AM
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Mandy, do you have her in an e-collar or e-jacket? If you suspect that she may have done this to herself, she'll need to be in one to prevent further damage.

Wishing you luck at the vet today. Please keep us posted! hug2


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306728
11/22/12 10:44 AM
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No I don't have that


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: GliderNursery] #1306729
11/22/12 10:44 AM
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No I don't have that


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306731
11/22/12 10:58 AM
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Get well soon

Last edited by BCChins; 11/22/12 10:59 AM.

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Friendly Reminder please have an e-collar ready before you need it......
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306733
11/22/12 11:00 AM
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Mandy, get in touch with Denise, Minkasmom. She can get an ejacket out to you tomorrow when the mail is running.

With an ejacket she will be able to play, run in her wheel and feed herself.

Saying a prayer for Bubbles.


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306736
11/22/12 11:13 AM
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here is the vet report from last night now keep in mind this vet did not state in there that she has NEVER done a Glider and thats WHY i refused her because she just didnt answer all my questions that were concerns especially when i asked her about a e-collar she said she doesnt have one for such a small animal!!!!
Emergency Visit Report

Date: 11/22/2012

Reason for visit: Presenting Complaint: Thursday, November 22, 2012 0200: wound

History: Pet is a female sugar glider of unknown age that presented to Blue Pearl Emergency for a wound in the right inguinal area. She is housed with another sugar glider and was recently treated for an abscess in this area with Clavamox. No other concerns, per owner.

Physical Examination:
Temperature = UTO
Pulse= TNTC
Respiratory Rate= sniff
Weight:UTO
Appearance: BAR, ambulatory, good body condition, normal hydration
Integument: open wound with herniation into right inguinal area
Eyes: No ocular discharge or lesions
Ears: No significant findings
Nose: No nasal discharge
Oral Cavity: MM Pink, crt < 2 sec, no oral lesions, no significant dental disease (species precluded full oral exam)
Lymph Nodes: No peripheral lymphadenopathy
Heart / Lungs: Normal heart rate and rhythm, no murmur, pulses strong and synchronous, eupneic, normal bronchovesicular sounds
Musculoskeletal: Ambulatory, no lameness, no joint effusion or pain, normal musculature
Abdomen: Non painful, no masses, no organomegaly
Urogenital: No significant lesions
Neurologic: No significant abnormalities

Problem list:
Open wound in right inguinal area with deep pocket into inguinal region

Differential Diagnosis:
Self trauma vs trauma from cage mate vs open

Recommendations:
Recommend admit for surgical repair, fluids, analgesia, and antibiotics. Owner aware pet may worsen or fail to improve, regardless of treatment. Owner aware that without prompt treatment, wound could extend into abdominal cavity and open pet up to peritonitis and/or death.

Treatment:
Owner declines all treatment and elects to monitor at home and follow up with rDVM.


Discharge Instructions:
Please monitor Bubbles closely for any pain, lethargy, inappetance or other abnormalities.

If Bubbles worsens in any way, please seek immediate veterinary medical attention.


AGAIN I am taking her back today to see the exotic vet at Blue Pearl Tampa


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306745
11/22/12 12:16 PM
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My prayers are with Bubbles. I hope she will be ok. did they give you pain meds for her last night? Please let us know what the vet today tells you. I'm so sorry your baby is going through this frown


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306753
11/22/12 12:51 PM
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No they gave me nothing!!!


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306760
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I hope you can get some pain meds for this little girl! I would call the vet immediately! Make sure she's hydrated & all that good stuff. Your Bubbles is on my heart today & in my prayers.



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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306772
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I'm going to the vet at three pm hopefully they can do surgery right away


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306773
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Mandy, if needed, you can make your own e-collar or e-jacket.

E-Collar

E-Jacket


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: GliderNursery] #1306776
11/22/12 02:26 PM
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Thanks much but what does the e jacket do wouldn't that hurt her wound? And will that still prevent her from being able to reach back to her scar then? Gosh I so hope she will pull thru all this Benny was barking in a way last night I never heard they miss each other so much already I had bubbles sleep in a small cage nexto my bed last night now I shouldn't give her anymore food or water until/before surgery right?

Last edited by Mandy; 11/22/12 02:29 PM.

Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306777
11/22/12 02:28 PM
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If her wound is only in the cloacal area, the e-jacket would be fine. However, if you have any concerns about it at all, then please don't use it. Use the e-collar instead! Since I can't see your glider, I really don't know which would be the best for her, that is a decision you will need to make.

ETA: The e-jacket is designed to prevent them from being able to bend to access their cloacal area. If they can't access it, they can't cause further damage. Think of it kind of like a back brace for a person, it limits their mobility as far as bending goes. Although it limits their bending mobility, it allows them more freedom of getting around in their cage, in/out of pouches, and makes it much easier to eat and drink.

Again, if you are not sure, please use the e-collar.

Last edited by GliderNursery; 11/22/12 02:31 PM.

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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306779
11/22/12 02:40 PM
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Thanks much I will try to post a pic later


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306813
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ok here is update... took her back in the vet now discovered that thru that big gapping hole she has right nexto her rectum her part where she urinates from has seperated and she urinates now out of that HOLE not her clocea.... oh my gosh... she said there seems to be a tiny hole and she said she can not guarantee that even if she fixes her back up that she will ever be able to pee out of the clocea again... it looks really bad... she said also if bubbles cause this all to herself thru mutulation she most likely will do it again... i asked her at what point do i say to just euthanize her and put her out of her misery?????????? the vet said at this point therte is still hope she said she will consult with Dr. Lightfoot her boss tomorrow morning. they are monitoring her tonight and giving her iv fluids and are surrenge feeding her.nand gave her pain meds and to perform the surgery tomorrow which involves possibly ambutating more of her already ambutated tail because the entire infection issue could come from her infected tail and went up into her clocea she couldnt tell right now if its an anal gland abcess she said tomorrow when she is under anestesia she will be able to tell more either way it will be an open wound because she said this needs to really heal from the inside out.....

i am defestated at what point do i give up and let her cross over the rainbow bridge??? how much should i try.? the doc said tomorrow she will be able to tell more as well when she is under anestesia they will use a different type then the iso she said there is one that is more expensive but is much quicker to wake them back up she likes that type more so i have to trust her opinion but i forgot the name of it.

Any thoughts? Advice?


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306818
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Mandy, whether to euthanize or not is a decision that only you can make. No one should tell you to or not to do it. You need to discuss things with your vet tomorrow and see what options there are, what the recovery will be, what it will entail, and decide if she (and you) should go through this or not. Also ask what her quality of life will be. Then make your decision. Just know that it is your responsibility as her owner to ensure her daily care, so it is your decision on what to do for her.

I'm sorry I can't give you any helpful advice in this situation. The only one I know that has a lot of experience in these areas is Val, you may want to try to contact her. Maybe she can give you some examples of potential outcomes to help you in your decision.

I'm so sorry that you and your baby are going through this. hug2


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306820
11/22/12 06:05 PM
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thanks much Shelly I am very committed to my gliders and no care or money will stop me but exactly my thought i dont want to be selfish and keep her alive if she wont have quality of life. I think we will know more tomorrow. I messaged Val but i am sure she is enjoying her thanksgiving with her family. i cant even function today i cant eat because if my pets are sick i am sick frown


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306831
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Sorry for all my spelling errors English isn't my native language so I apologize for that


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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Really? I never realized that! LOL

I'm sure Val will get back with you. Hope all goes well for you two tomorrow.


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306844
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I just called vet she is doing same no changes I will be a nervous wreck all night frown thanks for "listening"


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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No problem, I'm happy to "listen" anytime. I'm sure this is very difficult for you. hug2


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mandy I feel so bad for you going through this. Hopefully afteer putting Bubbles under your vet will be able to give you a better understanding of what is wrong and if she thinks it can be fixed to give her a decent quality of life. I've very glad she is at the vets and on pain meds for the night. I hate the thought of her having to suffer such awful pain. Bubble continues to be in my prayers. I hope the vet will have some good news for you tomorrow. Please keep us updated. I had to check gc as soon as i got home from thanksgiving dinner just to see how she was doing hug2


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306864
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Thanks much for your kind words my poor Benny is so sad I will set up his big tent nexto my bed tonight and put his small cage with food in there and his pouch so he can sleep with me nexto my bed he must be so sad and bubbles poor baby for her first time since I rescued her all alone I'm glad I gave the vet a bunch of her favorite snuggle blankies with her pouch I asked them to put that all into the plastic box they keep her in so she feels comfy my poor girl I never thought when I first got my gliders I ever be so attached to them but its amazing I miss bubbles holding my finger and snuggling in back of my neck under my hair


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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Just called vet again she is curled up n sleeping they told me frown normally now she gets up n eats frown but vet tech said its probably best she rests anyways and I asked her if she ate they said they will syringe feed her four am she said it had to do with schedule of meds and in morning they will hopefully do surgery the vet said she will consult with her boss about what to do about the disconnected uretha or hole in the Thing where her pee Runs thru if they can't fix that all else won't matter she said and I most likely have to put her down


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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I'm so sorry Mandy. I wish there was better news for her. Whatever happens, know that you did what was needed and provided her with the medical care she needed. She knows that you love her.


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306892
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Have you been in contact with Val yet? If not, please give her a call. Please. And do so before your vet begins any sort of surgery, this concerns me a lot. She may be able to give you some direction on what to talk with your vet about and a good course of action. Please give her a call.

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Aimee I send Val a pm this am but haven't heard back yet its midnight and I can't call her so late plus it was thanksgiving I can't disrupt her on this day I felt bad hopefully she will read my pm on time


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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The vet dr lightfoot that is the boss if the vet that is taking care of bubbles I saw on forum recommended vets for my area I heard she does a lot with gliders so hopefully they are experienced enough


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306916
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This is the vet that is in charge of the vet that's caring for bubbles. http://www.fvmace.org/FVMA_83rd_Annual_C...%20Surgery.html


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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Val would rather be woken up on Thanksgiving to help you with your glider than have your glider suffer for one minute that it doesn't have to suffer. She has MUCH experience with wounded gliders, including self-mutilations and very desperate-sounding injuries.

Please call her. Do not wait.


Alden
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Oh and vet wants to use sefoflurane over iso she said its a better anestesia even though more expensive she won't charge me more but feels this is a even safer better choice than ISo any comments? Thanks


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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Again - that is really something that you should ask Val, as she probably has more experience with the difference anesthesias as used on gliders than anyone else.


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Sending prayers for a good outcome! hug2


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: ValkyrieMome] #1306951
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Originally Posted By: ValkyrieMome
Val would rather be woken up on Thanksgiving to help you with your glider than have your glider suffer for one minute that it doesn't have to suffer. She has MUCH experience with wounded gliders, including self-mutilations and very desperate-sounding injuries.

Please call her. Do not wait.


I couldn't agree more with this. Her phone number is out there for a reason and in this case, I feel very strongly about having the consult with her so that you have a course of action.

Call her.

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Mandy
Call me.
And email me a picture ( pickardsgal@yahoo.com )

This really might not be as bad as you think. Lets talk and formulate a plan for you to discuss with your vet.


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Mandy, you can also have your vet call one of the consult vets for specific instructions. Dr. Walsh is Val's vet and is one of the consult vets...

Vet Consult List

This one is Dr. Walsh -

Quote:
Village vet Animal Clinic/All Creatures Veterinary Hospital
918-258-0040


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306966
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vet just called me and I just left message for Val. My vet was very pleased of condition this am color of urine is still good even so it comes out from a diff hole she also gained some weight overnight which is another plus the wound looked good she said and not like she has been messing with it more so the plan is clean out the wound and amputate her already partially ambulated tail some more to make sure the infection in the tail isn't actually causing the other infection to keep coming back they will use sefoflurane as anesthetic because she said its even better than iso she also Askese me about if i want her to do cpr if she had complications during surgery but after I discussed with her we opted out because she said sometimes if the infection has spread further than visible it might be better to just let be and I agreed with that because I want bubbles to have quality of life and not me being selfish I pray I am doing this right! Other than that she spoke to dr lightfoot who is actually a recommended glider vet in Tampa for gliders on Sugar Glider Help dot com website. Anyways keep saying your prayers thanks


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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Prayers continue for Bubbles. I'm glad to hear she was doing a bit better today though.


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Prayers for Bubbles!!


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1306983
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BUBBBLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS made it thru surgery!!!!!!!!!!! She is still wobbly the vet set from meds but seems to be coming out great of anestesia. Tail is ambutated. there was a mass in the tail they wanted to send it in to pathology but that would be another $ 250 so I opted out at this time frown i just couldnt swing anymore right now and the tail was really never my concern as much anyways as the other abcess was. which the vet still doesnt know what caused it. she said that whatever cause it to begin with probably never was treated long enough to completly kill it off so thats why it came back. the only concern now is the uretha (Pee hole will no longer be thru her clocea) it now will be in that newly created hole that was self inflicted. so she said that i really need to watch that it wont grow closed but she said she doesnt suspect it because the tissue is uretha and it should not want to do so... i cant say it how she said it because i cant remember all the fancy english words uggh but this is the best i can repeat it i will pick her up at 2 pm smile i will try to make pics then so everyone see better what i was trying to say where the self created hole was that she OR Benny did! i am concerned now and so is vet that possibly benny was the one nipping on her ! so if thats the case why would he do that ll of the sudden? could he smell her infection? my plan is to keep them in seperated cages until she is completly healed. i will put them close next to each other so they can still "talk to another" but just not into same cage!


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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oh and THANKS ALL of you for all your PRAYERS and support during this difficult time <3
one thing i know for sure i will keep this vet she was very very compassionate

Last edited by Mandy; 11/23/12 12:21 PM.

Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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Wow, Still praying. ((((HUGS))))


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Bubbles is home. Tail ambutated there is only about 1 inch left now frown other wound open and i have to flush it out with a solution daily. her pee hole is now on that side! vet says it will have to heal from inside out and close on its own. and hopefully her new pee hole won't close up if it does we have a problem.
I will try to take pics later


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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her picture not sure how i can post it so u see it???
[img]http://mygliders.shutterfly.com/pictures/11[/img]

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Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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she is not a very happy camper... she is fighting that E-Colar like crazy i will post vet report later tonight so now everyone can better understand what i was talking about


Mandy
1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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so here is the low down of CASE SUMMARY: ANY COMMENTS - SUGGESTIONS appreciated!!!


PHYSICAL EXAMINATION:
Pulse: 280
Respiratory rare= 80/n
weight 0.087 kg 0.19lb 0.02 m2
Integument:
LARGE right INGUINAL wound, healing well with granulation bed, no signs of inflammation and a small amount of what looks to be fibrin and potentially abscess capsule that is pulling away. able to see MUSCLE AND TENDON but no BONE or other organs.

UROGENITAL: Urinates very well through a STOMA in the URETHRA located within the left inguinal wound... bulbous dark muscle colored mass located just lateral to the cloaca. Pouch clean without signs of infection or inflammation
Rectal o masses, normal stool, no bleeding, defecates well through cloaca.

Surgical ambutation of the tail went well. The mass looked to be less like an abscess and more like a cancerous growth that may or may not cause her problems in the future. (I personally had declinde histopathology) ANY ADIVCE on that?

At this time she is trying to get to her surgical site, not the abcess, and so we recommend that she wears an ecollar and that you are very good about giving her the feedings as recommended as she may not eat as well as she would without the ecollar. She is very upset with the ecollar on as most gliders are and you should not be surprised by this. The suture in place are absorbable and will fall out on their own. She recieved SQ fluids during surgery and had a local infusion of lidocaine and bupivicaine at the tail ambutation site. SHE MAY BE PREDISPOSED TO URINARY tract infections or the urethra may close down as the tissue heals BLOCKING HER ABILITIY to urinate. ( :(((( )

We have discusses these possible complications of her DIVERTED URETHA opening.

this was the PROBLEM LIST ORIGINALLY:
RIGHT INGUINAL WOUND
MID TAIL MASS
Urethra opening in Right INGUINAL AREA urinates well through this opening


DIFFERENTIAL DIAGNOSIS:
r/o recurrent abscess that never full rescolved
r/o neoplasia (bening vs Malignant vs Granuloma vs Abscess vs other (i have to say about her tail my original vet 2 weeks ago said he pulled out some fluids of the tail and he said it looked like cottage cheese so he wasn't concerend that this was anything serious but now this makes me concerned.... would you invest in HistoPathology testing? what if it was indeed cancer? I know for sure i would NOT put her thru cancer treatment and rather put her down than having her to go thru that. THOUGHTS?

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Oh Mandy - this is not easy & I'm so sorry that you're in this position.

I went thru a similiar situation & my glider was at the vet's for a week and they were hand feeding him. I had to make that decision too. Just remember that there is no wrong decision. I felt that if I decided to put my baby to sleep I would wonder "what if? Did I give him enough time? ect." BUT on the other hand if I continued to put him thru treatments and then he didn't make it, I would feel terrible about doing that. We simply don't know.

Listen to what the vet has to say & follow your heart. My thoughts & prayers are with you & Bubbles. hug2 heart hug2

Hopefully someone who knows more about that medical jargin can come along and help out with that vet report.


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I'm sorry your going through all this...I'm sure it's very stressfull. I'm glad Bubbles made it through the surgery ok, and I hope she gets better each day.

Her picture is cute...she's has such an annoyed look on her face, and I like how she's holding onto the e-collar.

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oh my gosh I just read about self-mutulation.... and this is what my vet suspected... so how do i know IF SHE did this to herself or if Benny did it to her!! I saw her bending over several times last week but I always thought she was "licking" herself clean. no noise or screamig like that post described of Mambo. she is in her e-collar and in sep cage from benny but what happens for her future now? also anyone ever had heard of a new pee hole like she now has? I wonder what her prognosis are?


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black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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I'm not sure how you will know if she did it to herself, of if Benny did. Keep an eye on her to see if she tries to continue the behavior. Of course she won't be able to with her e-collar on.

I wish I knew her prognosis, but I can't help there. ohwell


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[img]http://bubblesmysickglider.shutterfly.com/pictures/20[/img] ok here it is BE WARNED IT IS GRAPHIC.... the big hole and the RED big thingie is her URETHA which is now detached from her Cloacae... she will never pee thru her cloaca again she now has to pee thru a small hole from her uretha it is the big red pump u see by the opening gapping hole which is supposed to close alone and HOPEFULLY will not overgrow on the uretha.... i am so nervous about this and hope this will all work out. vet said no guarantee if it doesnt than we have a REAL issue. at top pic u see her amputated tail. the entire area looks wet BECAUSE i just had to flush it out with a solution... (have to do that every 12 hrs frown i am still gaggin seeing it and it hurts to look at her every time but.....

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1 suggie: Benny M neutered DOB 7/2010 got him 9/2010
1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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OMG Many that just made me cry. I've never seen anything so horrible. I will say triple prayers for her. I so much hope she will be ok.


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trust me I know I thought i was going to PASS out when i first discovered it.... im still crying posting it. I just changed the pics with explanation words of what is what frown


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1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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OMG!! So sorry to hear. Please keep us posted. I want to hear that Bubbles is doing better. My heart is tearing!!!

GliderNursery-Thanks for the info on the jacket and collar!!!


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I am soo glad to hear she is doing better!! I am anxious to see that she does good!! Give Benny and extra scratch from me. Bubbles looks like she wants to be left alone, or just take off the collar. Sorry Bubbles for your own good.
Thoughts and Prayers going out!!


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okay so now I have my guilt trip I wonder what did i do wrong or could have done to prevent this. first 2 weeks ago i took her to my dogs vet who had seen her before and he looked at her abscess and then squeezed it with his fingernails to "pop" it... I asked him if he could numb her and he said not possible in small animals she cried so loud i told him to stop i FEEL HORRIBLE i even allowed him to do that. he did the same thing on a stye on my dogs eye that day I was furious... needless to say HE WILL NO LONGER BE MY vet. I cant get over it i never heard her cry/scream like this before... maybe this all prompted her to start chewing her womb open like that. then also i didnt seperate the two after that.

other than tha she was wide awake last night running around in her small cage the entire nite. i had it right nexto my bed. sometimes she would just sit there she looked so sad with her cone on. I did however mash her corn and grapes and this morning it was all gone so she is EATING but i havent seen her drink water but that doesnt mean she hasnt I hope. I also surynge fed her some of the vets food. she did have very tiny small amounts of poop so i guess thats good her system gets going. she was up from 9 pm to 11 am and the only way i could get her to go to sleep and FINALLY rest is i put her in my neck under my hair while laying in bed and covered her up with a blanky and she FINALLY went to sleep she kept cuddling closer and closer to me it was so sweet. before that i turned my head and covered her with my hand and softly blew warm air on her with my mouth i think she really liked that also she kept coming closer and closer. she is such a tiny sweet angel and i can only pray she will pull thru all this and recover from all this. she is sad in her e-collar and i see her trying to bend her body down to either lick or bite her wound but she cant quiet reach it. she wants to groom her face i can tell but of course she cant with e-collar. i put benny ontop of her cage on outside last night so they can see each other she did the sweetest bark ever she was happy to see him... him of course typical man just ran all over the cage and tried to crab her with his hand thru the cage. smile once she is a lot better i will move her cage into the glider room right nexto his again but for now i will keep her right nexto my bed so i can observe her thruout the night. thanks for listening

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1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1307248
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Mandy stop giving yourself a guilt trip. You are doing everything you can for Bubbles. It's always easy to look back and say well i should have or could have, but you do what you know how or are able to at the time and it's not always right or enough but it's what you are doing for her now that counts. I'm sure you have spent a fortune on vet bills and you are giving her everything you can. Continue loving her and careing for her and praying for her and hopefully she will pull through and give you many more years of love to repay you for all your love and work.
Did you talk to your vet about using an ejacket on her? That would allow her to wash her face and eat and drink without problems. I would discuss it with your vet before switching from the ecollar though. The poor baby will probably have to have one or the other on for a very long time to completely heal that awful sore. It just amazed me that such a tiny animal can even survive having that much of their body removed.


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1307285
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thanks for your kind words... yes I am up to about $ 1000 this month already for Bubbles vet visits.... my husband would KILL me if he knew!!!! And my labrador needs surgery next week $1200.... i need to play FLorida lottery lol

ok i want this e-jacket i read online and i think she can use it. my vet is closed. so how do i get one Denises PM box is full so i cant send her a message. Does she have a website? How do i know which size? So as long as she can;t bend over to reach her stump tail or her cloaca then e-jacket will work. Any input if they can bend enough with this jacket to reach these areas?

So i want one overnighted. Can anyone let denise know to contact me since her PM box is full?

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1 suggie: Bubbles F Rescue no tail got her 3/16/11 at approx 2 yrs -she died due to pneumonia 7/6/2015 RIP frown

black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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Mandy, I just sent you a PM.


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Have you checked for her phone number in her profile?


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Hi Mandy if you dont get hold of her let me know. I have ejackets, she supplies me, But do try to get hold of her first. There is a piece of plastic in the belly of the jacket that keeps the glider from getting at the cloaca or upper part of tail. So sorry you and Bubbles are going through this.

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A certain little angel managed to get through to me & make me aware of your situation, Mandy. angel Bless them one and all...they can even penetrate my over PM limit (I don't know how but it doesn't matter).

My cell phone number IS in my profile...please feel free to call me TONIGHT. I can get a couple e-jackets on the way to you Monday morning but need a few measurements for Bubbles' specific situation. With the way this is sounding, you're going to want at least 3: 1 for having on, 1 for being in the wash, and 1 for "stand-by". I'm going to review some of the pictures and put the "committee (in my head)" on alert just in case we need to make some special modifications.

And honey, the LAST thing you need to do right now is play the shoulda/woulda/coulda game...all you're gonna succeed in doing is turning yourself into a sobbing heap of regret. Right now, there's no time for that. hug2 You need to put whatever happened prior to right now behind you...learn from it at a later time...and be as strong as you can be. Bubbles hasn't given up, and you can't give up on her. (lord, that's hard to say....and harder to do, but lean on all of us here to help keep you going.) Focus on the POSITIVE side of things: she's eating, her body functions are coming back, so far you're not talking about anything being infected, and she LOVES YOU (that oughta be enough to put a good dose of starch in your resolve thumb )

Gonna shut up now so this message can get on its way. Hang in there!!!!


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Oh my!! Just saw this thread and I'm praying for Bubbles and for you too Mandy. You've done everything you can. Bubbles is a lucky little girl to have a mommy like you!! Hang in there!!


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Oh Mandy, I feel so bad you and your little one are going through this. Know we are here for you no matter what decision you make hug2


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Mandy, I'm still standing by for the info I need to make your e-jackets. I have an ADORABLE print that I'm just ITCHING to work up for your little girl...rosy raspberry with little black polka-dots! I also have a "rosebud" print in orange and turquoise that makes a DARLING e-jacket.

But I need to hear from you TODAY what size to make...it takes a "few minutes" to put them together. I have the afternoon & evening free, and want to get them out FIRST THING tomorrow. Call/text/PM/e-mail me soon! worried


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Mandy, I just wanted to say that your little one can go on to lead a NORMAL and healthy life, although it will have to be as a single glider.

I have a glider here that has no cloaca at all. She has been like this for years now and has no health issues at all.

So dont feel like you are alone in this, and know the outcome can be a good one!

Here is a picture of my Meadow:



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Mandy, I am sorry that you are having to go through with this. I'll be keeping Bubbles in my thoughts and prayers.

Has there been a picture of what Bubbles cloaca looks like?

Personally I feel that a vet is always the first go to and if nothing else if you don't feel comfortable with your vet then maybe you can at least get your vet to consult with another more knowledgeable vet.

I don't know what I would do if I didn't have the rapport that I do with my vet. She has saved me lots of money just by listening and doing a little research herself. No matter what, I am in no way shape or form qualified to make the decisions that she can.

Again, I am hoping and praying nothing but great things for you and Bubbles!


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Healing thoughts and prayers for Bubbles.
Mandy I would take Denise up on her offer of E-Jackets.
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Mandy, hope Bubbles is doing better. Sending out prayers and lots of love to both of you.


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Just wanted to give everyone a courtesy update. My dog was sick I was sick so i havent been online much at all.

Bubbles is recovering well. She is still on her antibiotics twice a day and i am flushing her wound now once a day. It seems to be healing up nicely so has her ambutated tail. She does seem to sleep a lot and is still very skinny frown she is eating and pooping AND PEEING from her cloaeca again YAY that was good news but she is really skinny i can feel her bones frown even so she is eating I wonder if I should force feed her some of the Oxibow Critical care food the vet gave me for the firstfew days when she was in her e-collar. Any suggestions? I havebeen feeding her mealies a lot hoping thatwould "stuff" her up. Any ideas/suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks Other than that Tail has been send in to see if it was cancer in the tail or not. Praying for those results


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black Labrador: Bogi RIP 8/10/13 the void in my heart will never be filled again.
2 Bunnies: Buddy & Rexi RIP Rexi 6/5/2014
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If she is that skinny, I would be offering her more nutritious foods than just mealies. Those may be filling her up, but not giving her enough to put on weight. I'm not sure what that food stuff is the vet gave you, you should contact the vet and see his/her opinion. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt her though.


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1309742
12/04/12 11:13 AM
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Avocado is good to give when trying to put on weight. It can take a long time to get weight back on them. I have a little boy who, a year later, is still not back to his original weight.

Glad to hear the cloaca is working! Things just may heal up fine!


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1309767
12/04/12 01:30 PM
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Illinois
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When our Ladies were recovering from their pouch abatement surgery, we added one or two teaspoons of ensure and 1/2 tablespoon of avocado to their diet to bring their weight up, just in case they may need more surgery. They loved it, especially the avocado. This was in addition to their blended mix and fruits and vegetables. So happy to hear your little one is doing so well! She has been in my thoughts since your first post...


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1309788
12/04/12 04:03 PM
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Butte, Mt. USA
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Mandy I'm sorry you and your dog are not feeling well, but I've VERY glad your baby is doing a bit better. The ensure works great for putting on some weight. Make sure to get the vanilla and not the other flavors though. I've never had a glider pass on the vanilla ensure. We had a pair we took in as a rescue that were literally nothing more than a piece of skin over bones and I fed the the ensure diet for a few months and they gained weight and got so healthy on it.


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1309844
12/04/12 06:48 PM
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I gave my Roo all natural peanut butter to help him gain weight after surgery. I'd give him the oil and the next time. Stir the oil into the peanut butter and give him that. Not only did it help, it was hilarious to watch him eat the peanut butter!


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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1309875
12/04/12 09:00 PM
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Re: Oh my god Bubbles split open at her rectum [Re: Mandy] #1311531
12/10/12 06:29 PM
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Mandy - how is Bubbles doing? She has been on my heart heart



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