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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244098
03/30/12 06:22 AM
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So sorry Dayana is going through this. I'm sure you'll both get through this, just have to take it day by day, you'll already handling it much better than I would be.


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244222
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Back to the vet today.

She ripped open the neck/shoulder area again. They removed the staples (only 4 of the original 11 were still in anyway) and said from the chest down it looked better though wet from licking... it was the top area that was bad.

They cleaned it with Chlorhexidine, re-stitched (internally) the top part as far as they could (there is an open area so ragged they can't stitch it) and also noted that there are now fresh holes (bite marks) all around the top of the wound that were not there yesterday. <sigh>

So then 2 drops of glue on 2 small places that were being stubborn and a slathering of Silvadine ointment over the whole mess... then they switched her from Ditrim to Baytril and sent me off with some Chlorhexadine too. I am going to give the Baytril 1x a day, Metacam 1x a day or more often if needed, clean it once a day, and add Vetericyn spray after I clean it.

She is SO not impressed right now, but finally chilled out and is sleeping at the moment. We shall see where it goes from here...

WARNING: the pictures are graphic again, so don't look if you get queasy easily. This is day 3, and all 3 days are documented including surgical photos.

http://s789.photobucket.com/albums/yy174...jury%20Day%203/


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244226
03/30/12 04:08 PM
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frown frown frown

Poor thing. Thank you for the updates, although this is my first comment my girlfriend and I have been following along from day 1. Best of luck. Keep the updates coming, hope everything works out ok!



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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: tootles] #1244244
03/30/12 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: tootles
As a vendor I have been told it is our responsibility to check every single inch of our toys and products before they go out for possible issues that could arise. I'm not pointing any fingers I'm just going off what I was told. I hope everyone that has this chain is pulling the toys out checking. I quit using most any chain ages ago I use fleece braids in their place.


From my understanding, Davie is being sort of "run down" behind the scenes for using this chain. I would like one more time to be VERY specific here:

Davie is not responsible for this injury in any way, shape or form. I love her toys and wish I could afford to buy more of them.

I use plastic chain in my own toys. Until I found these 2 links with the sharp points, I never thought a bit about plastic chain being a hazard. using fleece braids is a great idea - but not all plastic chain is a hazard - not to mention it is simply nor possible for any person to look for every single "possible issues that could arise" because accidents happen no matter how good your quality control methods are.

Not to mention, there is still no proof that is was definitely the chain that caused the issue. No one was in the pouch with Dayana when she got hurt to see what actually caused the injury... just because I found the chain after the fact does not make it the absolute cause... it's the most likely cause, sure - but that is why I specified "possibly dangerous chain" when I made the original post.

Other types of chain are also having issues apparently, including other styles from the same manufacturer. The point of this post is NOT to complain about the vendor who used the chain. The purpose in this post is to get everyone to double check their toys - especially their chain - no matter the age of the chain or who the manufacturer was - just in case it was the chain that did this to Dayana. Additionally, the secondary point is to let everyone see Dayana's injuries and keep everyone informed about what the vet did and how it turns out in case anyone else has a glider with a similar injury.

Again: Davie is not responsible for this injury in any way, shape or form... so anyone taking part in the behind the scenes bashing of her that I heard rumors about is encouraged to stop and consider that:

(1) the chain may not even have caused this and

(2) Davie is an incredible toymaker with wonderful, creative and beautiful items made with the safety and pleasure of all sugar gliders in mind

....so it really isn't fair for anyone to speak ill of her or her toys because of Dayana's injury.

I will continue to update everyone on Dayana's condition. Please keep the prayers and good thoughts coming smile

Last edited by LabNGliderMom; 03/30/12 05:04 PM.

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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244290
03/30/12 08:42 PM
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Julie, I am SOOOOO sorry to hear that she is not leaving the injury along. There has GOT to be a way to keep Dayana from tearing herself open. I know you and your vet have explored every possibility. Is there any way Denise's e-jacket can be modified with a big opening over the wound, or maybe incorporating at least part of an ecollar to keep her from reaching it?

Yes, vendors are responsible for making safe products... and owners are responsible for checking products... but you know what? Sometimes no matter how diligent everyone in the chain is (no pun intented! crazy ), accidents happen. This was just one of those cases, whether it happened because of the chain or something else. I sure don't hold Davie responsible.

My heart goes out to you and Dayana. Heal fast little girl, and LEAVE IT ALONE!!! hug2


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244321
03/30/12 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Is there any way Denise's e-jacket can be modified with a big opening over the wound, or maybe incorporating at least part of an ecollar to keep her from reaching it?


Denise and I were on the phone earlier and don't think the e-jacket could be modified in a way it would work, not irritate the wound and still stay on the glider.


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: Dancing] #1244353
03/31/12 01:53 AM
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How is little Miss Dayana doing? Ya'll are in my prayers... Hope you heal quickly little one.


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244376
03/31/12 10:24 AM
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Oh Julie, I'm so sad and sickened to see how extensive Dayana's wound is! shock I've been playing "hit & skip" with topics here & had NO IDEA what was happening in your neck of the woods til Dancing brought it to my attention.

After looking at the pictures, I truly can't think of ANY WAY at the moment that I could make an e-jacket which would help & not irritate the wounds. I've got a road trip to make today & will talk to "the committee" (in my head :rofl2: ) about ANY ideas that they can come up with. Now that I've seen where the damaged areas are...they're in conference thinking HARD. worried If there's ANYTHING that "we" can think of, we'll let you know.

Prayers being sent to St. Francis to watch over you and Dayana. hug2


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244393
03/31/12 11:37 AM
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Dayana crossed the bridge this morning, in my hands. She fought really hard for several days but opened herself up again AND the wound got necrotic. The vet and I made the decision that she deserved better and we let her go peacefully. I miss her very much and am not up to discussing it further or posting the pictures from last night/this morning yet. Thanks for everyone's prayers and good thoughts.

Love you Day-Day...


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244407
03/31/12 12:21 PM
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Julie, I am so sorry to hear this.

May you find comfort in your memories of her.

Glide Free Little Dayana :rbridge:


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244414
03/31/12 12:41 PM
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Oh Julie, I am sooo sorry. I lost my love, Rascal, yesterday morning and the tears simply wouldn't stop. hug2 gangel I know how you are feeling and I wish this feeling upon no one. Sooo sorry cry

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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244429
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I'm so sorry hon about your baby, and I am sorry about Rascal too, bless ya'lls heart

Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244439
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cry cry cry I'm so sorry, Julie. hug2


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: minkasmom] #1244461
03/31/12 07:09 PM
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I'm so sorry for your loss. She went knowing she was truly loved and will be missed. hug2 hug2


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244517
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I'm so sorry Julie!


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244530
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Oh no! frown My heart just broke.. I'm so sorry for your loss of sweet Dayana... *big hugs*


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244542
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Sorry for your loss. :hbreak:


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244551
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Oh gosh, I to just found this posting about your beloved suggie(s) and now to read that she has past.

I am in tears for you and for her.

And Rascal, God bless you to little one.

I pray they both find each other in Glider Heaven and are now flying through the trees where gliders congregate to discuss their lives with their beloved owners.

In a breeze they will be with you,in a whisper they are talking in your ear.

Telling you they love you and are well and happy to have spent their lives with you, they love you as much as you loved them.
God bless you both and to the Gliders. Heaven is yours my sweets.


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1244650
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Julie, I'm so very sorry for your loss


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Re: Possibly Dangerous Chain - PLEASE be careful!! [Re: LabNGliderMom] #1245339
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I am so so VERY sorry for your loss. frown

This is very scary, indeed. So, if you take a dremel to the sharp spots, it should be okay? Scary thing is, you don't know exactly what caused it. That's terrifying.

Again, I am so sorry!

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